How Billionaires Stay Young and What You Can Do Too | Dr. Adeel Khan

EP 178The Mikhaila Peterson PodcastPublished January 25, 2023

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Intro

What Is A Stem Cell, And Where Do They Come From

I was born too early I did a bunch of I I've had my ankle replaced and that surgery is just not good like they're pretty good at knees they're pretty good at hips at least in Canada please 2007 and I was 17. so the surgeon was like not super comfortable yeah that's uh yeah that's too bad back then the technology wasn't there yet but now now what we can do if you were to have or someone out there has like the same issue and they want to avoid surgery is we can actually use expanded stem cells so the stem cells that we grow in a lab for three to four weeks and then you can actually use a 3D bioprinter and you can print a custom scaffold and then you can see the stem cells with the custom scaffold and then you resurface the entire joint and you regrow cartilage that's that is a that's I'm like irritated but that's so good that's so good what are you supposed to do like when are they going to be able to regrow a foot I need a new foot yeah exactly now we can we we're not that we're there University of Washington is the first shot Goliath he's doing an FDA approved clinical trial right now using that 3D bioprinter technology uh but we're going to be uh my company is going to be acquiring that and providing in Mexico in two years probably so okay so that's crazy this is wild um why are you guys in you're in Dubai now you're in Mexico are you guys in America or do you have to travel outside of America for this well yeah America is like a very interesting um environment politically because the FDA just to give people an idea um 70 of their uh donations uh come from pharmaceutical companies and so so they inherently have uh lobbyists who want to promote Pharmaceuticals and don't want stem cell technology to take off and so they're trying to regulate stem cells wow like it's a drug and so they're basically making it they're almost they're cracking down a lot so anyone doing stem cells has to be really careful in the U.S a lot of them can't get malpractice and get in trouble but there's still a lot of people doing it but there has been a lot of cases recently where doctors even lost their license so to me it's not worth the risk like even though we're going to be opening up a new facility with the Florida Panthers in the in the summer and so we will be operating out Florida but we'll only be able to offer like the first generation of like stem cells which is what I talked about earlier where we take the fat or the bone marrow so they're not true stem cells they're more just reducing inflammation which can still help but like to be honest like I could most of my patients like they're okay flying over to Los Cabos or Caymans or somewhere and we just do it over there you know so what does the average person do for anti-aging that doesn't have like 20K to drop on infusions every couple years well or are they just going to be like old and ugly and it's that's just life is hard yeah it's funny my uh people around me have been saying you're going to create like an unethical society which because we're working on Gene editing too and so it's like what if what if because you can eventually edit jeans to choose selective and you know eventually it's you can basically make offspring that would be superior genetically right um so it's not like these things are all gonna happen and there's gonna be a lot of ethical things around there it's like are you creating a superior Society where people have access to certain technology medical technology that other people don't um and it's going to widen yes and it's going to widen the Gap that's already so widened um so I I don't I don't have a good answer to that but I do say that like the fundamentals are still the fundamentals um so you you know learning how to put on muscle like sleep exercise nutrition Stress Management and like meditation like those are at the day are still the most important things um and yeah like I'm a huge fan of muscle because muscle releases something called myokines myokines are cytokines so they're like protein Messengers that go throughout your whole body um so they go into the brain they fight off Alzheimer's dementia they go into the heart to prevent heart disease they help with insulin sensitivity to prevent diabetes um they do what's called increased onco suppressor genes so they prevent cancer so there's all these cool benefits my alkynes have um so or so I always say like and and this was Dr Gabrielle Lyon who coined the term but like a muscle is like the organ of longevity so muscle is really the key to longevity and if you're not strong and if you don't have that strength you're Frailty and chance of dying younger are much higher so that's actually the best predictor we have right now of longevity is muscle okay that's good there isn't yet like a a magical pill or something that only means this sounds pretty much well what we're making is we're going to make um we're making designer exosomes so we're going to have a muscle derived exosome and we also have a g and we also have a gene therapy called spolostatin it's actually really cool so um it's it's a company in Honduras we're doing a clinical trial right now but um so have you heard of myostatin yeah so yeah myostatin is basically it's it's kind of like this enzyme that blocks how much muscle you can put on so if you have a myostatin deficiency which like some Pro bodybuilders do or if you look up on Google myosand efficiency you'll see these humongous cows with so much muscle because they don't have a cup yeah that's why I know of myostatin it's from the cows yes exactly those muscular cows because they have deficiency so they can put on Unlimited muscle so actually this new therapy that it's an injection and it basically inhibits myostatin um for about a year and a half and so it allows you to put on a lot more muscle um so it's really exciting so I'm gonna I'm gonna get done on myself actually I'm excited to do it but it's gonna be cool what how so does that give you like well that's way better than taking steroids right it's way safer because it's just and it's not in your system forever um and this is all it's doing is sending a signal similar to how peptides do to turn off this uh signal to the enzyme and it's temporary there's like no document to side effects and um yeah it's a really cool technology so I'm excited to try it on myself but I know they're doing clinical trial for muscular dystrophy right now um so it's really exciting that's so cool wait does that mean if you had atrophy must so that that's that's atrophied muscles right yeah oh my gosh oh I could use that in my leg sweet that sounds good yeah that or I or that sounds a lot faster than waiting for someone to regrow a foot yeah so wow that's so cool okay okay um what do you think about red light therapy does any of that like matter slash work yeah no I I actually um like you know I even though I'm into all the like you know basic stuff I still think there's other things you can do on top of the basics to fight off aging and signs of aging and red light therapy is one things I use to help with like skin aging and stuff like that like I've never done Botox or anything like that and I I mean I don't compare to people in my like I'm in my uh mid-30s like most people my age have a lot more wrinkles I've seen and stuff like that and I think part of the reason is because I use red light but red light therapy can also help you with sleep um there's actually this cool new um intranasal red light therapy you can use at nighttime um it helps with go and then nasally because it helps to relax your brain and helps to helps you to fall asleep and stuff wow that's cool okay I need to look into that too this has been very informative wow interesting okay um let's talk about PRP a little bit you use because you said you work with platelets right yeah so PRP is a technology that was developed like almost 30 years ago now um so it was where you know we literally just took your blood we put it in a centrifuge we isolated the plasma and the plasma has something called platelets and so when you centrifuge it it concentrates those platelets and platelets are little Messengers um basically that send signals to your body to help facilitate regeneration so what it was used for the claim to fame for PRP was really to help injuries and sports athletes get back through the field faster so it's like you know they tore a hamstring or they injured their calf or something instead of having to wait like four to six weeks with Physio and stuff like that you could inject them with PRP and they'd be back in like two to three weeks or even less sometimes and so that's what made it really famous and and still to date we use PRP a lot for the acute sports injuries um but I do feel like it is an older technology now because it's as with anything technology keeps evolving right and so PRP was one of those things I use a lot of in the last like five like you know I use so much of an I used to promote all the time and I still use it but now that stem cells and exosome technology is really taking off it's almost like it's kind of like providing old technology for at least for like chronic medical conditions you know what I mean like if it's a if it's like a acute muscle tear I have a pro athlete like I you know I had an initial guy just a couple weeks ago he tore his adductor he's a he's a multi-million dollar contract so for him every week makes a difference right so for him like doing PRP makes sense getting back fast as possible right um but for like unless you're like you know you're you have an acute injury um I don't really see the application as much because for chronic tendon issues chronic osteoarthritis it just stem cells work so much better like they have longer lasting results uh better data behind them and the safety profile is the same like there's no risk with PRP or stem cells okay but it's way cheaper to do PRP yeah and there's still some benefit and that's exactly and that's the big I think the main reason I do PRP now for like someone osteoarthritis is just simply because they can't for stem cells usually that's the usually why yeah yeah okay wow well that covers a lot of what I wanted to talk to you about I mean I've got way more questions here but I mostly wanted to know about stem cells and if there were any downsides because when um when dad had so akathesia and that was being caused because he was on medications that were causing it so there wasn't really any regenerative thing we could do to counteract what was actively happening unfortunately but we were in Florida and and now I like and and I was looking up everything I was like NAD we should talk about NAD of what you think about it anyway I was looking at NAD I was looking at exosome therapy I was just like I was looking at hyperbaric oxygen I was like just whatever could work nothing like helped at all until the medications that were causing it were removed like nothing helped at all but um what do you think about nadn hyperbaric oxygen is there anything there yeah no uh so our anti-aging protocol that we have in Los Cabos we do use hyperbaric oxygen uh with it as well because it has again it's a slightly different mechanism and um oxygenation does have like especially the the guy in Israel who likes he started like the view of clinics and he's like the kind of the pioneer of hyperbaric oxygen um and he has he's the one who published a study showing that it can have longevity benefits but also help with like um cognitive impairment so it can help with brain regeneration and we're in my experience it works synergistically with the stem cells because it just it is promoting an environment that's going to help your body to recover and heal um so I'm a fan of it with other treatments like as a standalone I don't think it's usually enough for most things um but as an adjunct to other things I think it can be helpful um and same thing with NAD like I think NAD um it depends on what you're trying to use it for if you're just trying to use it for like more energy and stuff uh I think for that it can be great just so people a lot of people might not know what NAD is it's kind of like this molecule that how it's it's in your mitochondria which is like the PowerHouse uh to go back to like high school science and so basically what happens is that and it just helps to replenish those stores in the mitochondria um it helps with a process called oxidative phosphorylation which is like the process that helps to produce more energy um and so it makes it makes energy more available to your body um and so when you replenish any when you get older your any of these stores deplete and so it's just helping to replenish those uh and so you have to typically you have to do any any IV drips uh fairly like consistently to see the benefits um at least that's what I've seen clinically and um but there are these new cool options too like some people are using NAD um like patches NAD suppositories um so they can use them on the go and like in different situations so I think it's becoming more accessible in that situation did they like so um when Dad was sick anything that like I tested I tested on myself first to make sure it wasn't going to do something weird in NAD it was like that could do something weird um is it always just awful like whenever I've had NAD infusions now in three different three different people and they're like this big bag and you're hooked to an IV and it's like a five to seven hour thing unless you can like tolerate it better and it makes me like it's like being hooked to like a battery I'm like not a little nauseous like a battery and just like yeah my arms are heavy and it like hurts and then I I had to get up and use the bathroom and I and I'm kind of like you know out of it because of the the infusion and I turned it up instead of turning it down to like stuff yeah and then it was just like I'm about to die anyway I got it back down is it always like you're being hooked to a battery or am I like a wimp no no you're not it's just there's um individual like response uh like some people like when I had it I literally felt nothing but lender I have a lot of patience that describe it just like yeah exactly like you do and so um I think that sends that's that's probably other things going on and that's why you have to like and that's why you have to really get to the root cause why is your body reacting that way right and so you're obviously things going on in your body um underlying maybe like um you know in terms of like immune dysfunction and whatnot that are probably increasing your risk of having that type of response to it oh okay okay that's interesting yes anyway I did it a bunch of times and it wasn't like a one-off like um there's different concoctions you could combine with NAD to help like mitigate those things so um so maybe if we like if you ever want to do it I mean we can try a different protocol but I don't know if it sounds like you've had some bad experiences with it so it's probably not worth it I feel like I did these I think these three stem cells would give you enough of energy benefit um because it does give you more energy too um and people feel like like I literally had one NHL player he was 35 years old he was thinking about retiring and uh about six months after he had the IV treatment done he said he felt like he was 25 again and he's gonna keep playing so it was pretty like that was like that's crazy a dramatic example but it's like amazing like Clinic like anecdotally just to see that is amazing that's so cool definitely going to get my dad on this and my mom after like cancer and everything yeah exactly that's very yeah yeah and yeah cool thing I just cancer I was just going to say is that um the micro environment that allows cancer to happen if you think about it it's the same underlying mechanisms right it's chronic inflammation is like the number one reason um and so if you and the IV stem cell is going to create a micro environment that are going to reduce inflammation and help to fight that off wow that's cool yeah yeah okay okay I never actually thought I I just assumed my like response to NAD was because nad's horrible it's like I can't imagine yeah suppository and just yeah you definitely got some sort of immune dysfunction which is why I think because you have the sensitivity to it like some stuff too right and so so I think that's just a few things just a few things yeah so there's definitely some immune dysfunction component that's why um I'm excited to do some treatments for you for the peptides and stuff okay because they'll reprogram your immune system basically wow I don't know you're talking a big talk here we'll see I've only done it once or twice so so how long have you been in regenerative medicine and why did you decide well regenerative medicine is like the coolest thing you could be doing as a doctor so yeah that's probably why you decided to go into it but yeah what's what's the back story a little bit no honestly like I think I think most people like I mean your dad's a clinical psychologist too like why do we become doctors this usually because it's pretty simple it's like we want to help people um but like there's so much um almost like disbelief at the conventional medical system for me uh I was I was just kind of like a lot of patients weren't getting better I was like why are these patients like suffering like there has to be a better way and so I just I started studying functional medicine I started studying regenerative medicine and I just got so important and like when I was in med school like I was reading textbooks on like intricativeness and functional medicine like regen stuff and like well on top of everything else and so that way I kind of understood both perspectives but obviously I saw a gap because like I'm like why isn't this stuff being applied clinically um and then so that's how I got yeah through the whole regen stuff because it was really just to help more people and like it's been like super rewarding to help millions of people oh not millions of people yeah but with our technology we'll help millions of people because now we have some proprietary Stem Cell Tech um but it's been really rewarding to help a lot of people around the world so um not just you know like the Kings and rulers over here but all over but just like regular people too that's so cool okay um what's your thoughts on so implementable things that people can do that aren't these expensive infusions you said muscle um muscle maybe light therapy can help a little bit what else is there what what can the regular person do like if I if I find a proper nutrition like protocol for your body like yeah well people there's so much bad information about nutrition and like I can I can go I can probably talk like two hours just for nutrition and how to but like there's like two overarching themes I can give people uh One is using a continuous glucose monitor to identify how your body responses addition Foods um because like I could eat a banana and you could eat a banana and we could have two completely different responses and that that can tell you because if my blood sugar is going up crazy and yours is stable then obviously I shouldn't be eating bananas because that high glucose is going to trigger more insulin which is going to trigger inflammation which is going to cause issues uh so that's one thing and then the other thing is um using blood work and laboratory markers and there are so many different inflammatory markers you can do to figure out like how is your body responding to different nutritional programs like there's something thing called Snips single nucleotide polymorphisms so what that means there's Snips and even like the LDL cholesterol so if I eat a hot if I eat a high fat diet it could cause me no issues and my cholesterol stays good my LDL cholesterol stays good the oxidative stress inflammation all stays good but someone like you or you know does you eat a high fat diet and your cholesterol goes through the roof and you have all this inflammation going on your body so those are called syntax so there's a lot of individualization to this stuff and um the best test out there is at least I've seen this is called DNA code it's developed by like one of the smartest geneticists in the world and it uses functional genomics to identify what type of nutrition and program you should make for your body oh maybe I'll do that yeah and be like vegan yeah just I think he's yeah he's a smart guy he was just he's all over the world speaking and stuff it's really cool technology cool okay wow very interesting well what else do I have on here are there any other tricks that we haven't delved into because I brought up NAD and Hyperbaric and you said you guys kind of like poke around in there too but like what else do you do uh I think the big the I think the big um there's no big secret I mean if IV stem cells I think are the big secret and we've revealed that obviously and how people can get access to that stuff but like I think the big thing a lot of people forget about really is like um you know meditation like meaning and purpose that type of stuff because like if you're not like that stuff is so important it doesn't matter how much you invest into all this other stuff but if you don't have like a good reason as to like why you're like why you're living what what's your big bigger purpose um and you don't have that like relaxation response when you meditate um you're never gonna truly like be optimizing your health and uh you know you can throw as many tricks and stuff as you want but that's like the base of the pyramid in my opinion and uh there's a lot of like tricksters out there who are going to tell you to like buy this program sell this and do that but you should focus on the fundamentals first and then worry about the you know Superfluous stuff after um but yeah I think that's like I I can't over emphasize like the importance of meditation like they're just so like I'm sure everyone already knows but it's just something to reiterate like having like a routine of mindfulness that's like you practice regularly um that's so important yeah I've fallen away a little bit from that I was really into it like when all my symptoms went away and everything and 2018 I was like whoa okay I'm gonna do everything and I like everything was dialed and then when Mom and Dad got sick it was like survival mode for two and a half years so it's like yeah I'm not like I'm not even going even though meditation would benefit me now it was like if all you're thinking about are scary things I was like I'm not meditating my sleep schedule got out of whack everything got out of whack things are a lot better now like things are great now yeah but like I'm like I've gotten to the point in work that I haven't been prioritizing I mean I will it'll probably take me another month because I've been talking about it and then I'll just do it there's just one video on YouTube it's like it's a 10 minute guided one by this like um Indian Guru guy or someone and he's just like it's like the most relaxing thing I've ever found and but it's like so it's just the way he does it and he always talks about how the spine is the center um because like in different cultures like there's like chakra there's Chi like in different like you know China Japan and yeah there's like they all talk about this the spine being the center and he just it's a really cool guided meditation so but that's okay yeah send that well what do you think about um saunas and cold plunges and breathing techniques yeah so lexanas definitely have like because of especially out of Finland there's like a lot of data from um there in terms of like health benefits um at coal plunge like I'm I'm still like a little bit skeptical about because I don't know if it really has real health benefits as opposed to more just like maybe mental health benefits like just like telling your body like I'm gonna do this now and I don't care how you just like and just like get your sympathetic nervous system going and like kind of telling your body when you need to go you go type of thing you know what I mean um and being able to control your body's response in that sense I think has put some potential benefits um but from like actually like reducing inflammation in terms of long-term data or anything like that like I don't think there's I don't I haven't seen much on it um and um yeah so I think for like cold plunges and sauna like if I if I if you could like if everyone could have access to sauna it is a great thing to have in your house or have on a daily basis because there's again there's a lot of upside and little downside so I I like I'm definitely a fan of that I like cold plunges more than I thought I would there's this there's this like weird little place in Dubai that one of my friends brought me to and it was like I showed up on the street and it's in the backyard and you have to go through the sketchy gate and there were just like tubs almost like garbage like tubs full of ice and I was like this is this seems like a bad idea but they had like saunas set up and an area for Wim Hof breathing and um cold plunges and I think after Wim Hof breathing after sawning and Wim Hof breathing maybe it's because you're on the verge of passing out I don't know but I that like constant narrative voice in my head just wasn't there I remember like looking at the sky and being and the first thought was like oh that's like some people don't have an internal dialogue and I was like that is so much better like I could hear without thinking about hearing it was super strange so that happened after Wim Hof breathing and I feel like the same thing happens with um sitting in an ice bath which is just like if you control your breathing and sit in there then it's just like no internal dialogue but it's great that's how I felt about it anyway no and I think that that's exactly what you said is the key is like using the breathing component to get the maximum benefits out of the cold uh treatments and like oh for sure like Patrick McEwen have you heard he's like the he's like the guy who wrote a book um about breathing and like that's by far the best resource about breathing and like how to breathe and why breathing so important and everything um but like yeah like breathing is like one of those things that should be talk to like his preschoolers like it's so fundamental and it's just silly that it's not in our education system at this point like you people don't know how to breathe like it's just it's just it's kind of funny but also sad at the same time my mom came into my grade two class as just like a guest speaker and tried to teach uh she did Hatha Yoga for a long time but she tried to teach a bunch of us how to breathe I just remember I was so embarrassed she was like she was making a thing of it but she was trying to teach people like instead of breathing up into your shoulders to like breathe breathe out that's what she was teaching yeah I was just like that's so fundamental yeah well back then it was like and I mean there was not much concept of this whole um no all this stuff but like now it's like they're trying to incorporate it but it should be literally like a curriculum that they're taught so um that and like you know just like a good idea I always think about like the lack of how ill-prepared people are to manage their health after going through 12 years of school or whatever 16 years of school whatever uh it depends how much school you do I did like 20 years of schools just but it's uh yeah but basically the point is like there should be it should be built into our system about like educate people to empower them on health right like how to how to move properly how to breathe properly how to eat that yeah like these are just like it's just something personal right like Empower people to be like take care of their own health instead of like relying on a system that's just broken like I mean if you're from you're from Canada originally so you know how bad our system is in Ontario right now right like it's really bad so it's and it's like right now yeah it's getting worse like the emergency wait times like access to care everything is just like broken like it's just yeah it's yeah it's angering I was there um I didn't go back so I moved like a year and a half ago and I didn't go back for a long time um especially there's a travel ban kind of on and um anyway I went back in October and Scarlett got a wicked cough and so I was trying to search for some cough medicine and there's this company um genexa that I really like for kids yeah so if people need like kit and I they might do stuff for adults too but their ingredients they just have like acetaminophen some like agave nectar to make it sweet there's like no dyes and sketchy things so anyway good luck finding that in Canada but she was really sick but she wasn't going to sleep yeah so so that was out so I was just trying to find cough medicine because she wasn't going to sleep all night um and everywhere was out of cough medicine like everywhere in Toronto didn't have cough medicine yeah I was like communist shelves yeah I've seen our health care System uh basically go from like top tier to uh third world country in the span of a couple years it's kind of it's very sad uh I do have a meeting with Doug Ford um who's our Premier I had a call with him before I left and I have another I'm meeting him again and when I go back um I'm not sure if I can push the envelope I'm not really interested in politics but at least at least I have his year in the Ministry of Health to at least like give them some guidance on how to fix their system and um from a high level I think it's just there's so much but I think from a high level it's just you have to restructure the way Physicians are incentivized like right now it's just a it's a reactive system you don't get paid unless people are sick and you don't get paid unless you see a lot of people so unless you change that whole fundamental system it's never really you know changed well that's that's great good luck with that yeah exactly exactly I'm not hopeful that that would be great I know but you know in parts of China they actually incent they actually pay you they give you bonuses if your patients don't go to the hospital or if your patients don't get sick like there's actually parts of China like that so it's like you know oh I'm not like that you don't it's not like you have to reinvent a wheel like there are people who already doing it it's just obviously like it's the system was designed um by people who wanted to support basically surgery and pharmaceuticals not preventative care right so wow I didn't know that about China that's cool yeah you should be paid like a bonus if you get your patient better exactly that should be the bonus yeah or if they stayed at a hospital or if they don't get cancer or if they they don't get heart like there's so many different metrics you could have like outcomes to like incentivize family doctors to keep their patients healthy you know but there's no there's literally zero so why is a why is a family doctor going to spend an extra 10 20 30 minutes with you they'd rather just get in and get out right like that's the only way they can make money yeah okay um what are the worst things you can do for yourself to increase how fast you age uh stress is probably the most common that people don't realize perfect it's like over like especially in our modern environment and everything um and then sleep is another big one um it's not just about quantity right we know it's a quality as well and there's so many different ways you can track that now but uh I think that's if you're not getting enough sleep and you're stress and your body's just going to age so much faster and you can see it on people's faces and all that stuff too um they just they just age right and um I think glycation is another big one which is where those like glucose or sugar molecules attach to like the red blood cells um so eating refined high sugar processed diets are gonna age you really fast too uh and like it's very basic stuff but like a lot of people still don't understand because there's so much bad information out there and there's still so much industry that promotes sugar in like subverts wait subverts way like where people don't really understand that this has sugar in it um like most people obviously know like about common things but a lot of people don't realize how what a simple carbohydrate is and how your body processes that and all that stuff right so um but glycation is a huge thing because it just ages your body internally um and like I yeah I process foods and the whole food industry it's I always say it's funny like the food industry and the so the three industries that all have the same Playbook are the tobacco industry the pharmaceutical industry and the food industry they've all done the same things over the last 60 years so the tobacco industry did it first right in the 60s they got doctors their doctors used to smoke they used to say it's good for you and then 20 years later they're like oh wait we're wrong about that and then Pharmaceuticals that's really wrong and then the sugar the sugar and food industry have done the same thing so you always get doctors to buy in promote it and then afterwards they're like oh wait like and it you know it's just it's funny if you just study in the history a little bit you see that they all do the same tactics does a crazy tactic too it's like oh we were wrong sorry a bunch of you died yeah yeah exactly yeah but it's yeah and that's where like as a doctor like our job is to be able to like you should be able to like discern like what's you know really the truth but for some reason like a lot I guess a lot of doctors just stop caring but I don't know or they're worried um because of their colleges I mean dad's college is going after him right now aren't you concerned I mean you're you're in Dubai and you said you're in Mexico but you're not concerned about being too Cutting Edge and losing your license or having your college at least investigate you yeah I mean it's it happened during covet because I was making I wasn't making candy I never made an anti-backs post but I was just making posts about like how we should be more nuanced about the vaccine because there is it's like any other prescription like it doesn't necessarily have to be for everyone at any age like maybe someone who's 18 and healthy doesn't necessarily need the vaccine like maybe the risks outweigh the benefits um and like I got a call from a college about that and I was like okay this is very interesting uh so uh it's yeah it's crazy like and then so obviously I had to stop talking about it um and yeah for sure with the regen stuff I think there could be some issues potentially because it is very Cutting Edge and you are taking away care I mean you are taking away business from Big hospitals and um there's going to be pushback and there's already a lot of push especially because I'm relatively high profile now and I'm treating and traveling around the world and treating a lot of high profile people and there's just gonna be more eyes on you but I think I'm doing it with good science and I'm working it's not like I'm working like I'm working with a big Institute I'm working with like a Harvard scientist and the University of Toronto scientists I'm working with a scientists from Italy and Dubai like it's not like I'm working with like some random bomb you know like I have good institutions backing me and I think that institutional staff really adds a layer of credibility that the college wouldn't be able to come after me um and that's why I I believe like I'm fine I'm actually in good science and I have good names to back me up so I'm not overly worried and to be honest like my move is going to be based out of Florida anyway over the next six months and like wheat Miami yeah Miami yeah Fort Lauderdale so I'll be there um because Canada's just like the innovation's so slow and there's just not nearly as much opportunity for business um so I'm just like you know I gotta and and to buy the same thing right there's so much Innovation going on here and I've had like I've literally had more business opportunities here because I have a few companies and like in the last two weeks than I did in like two years in Canada so it's just like there's just so much more going on yeah Dubai was weird um when I I so I spent two months I think in Dubai in 2021 and it the opportunities are crazy like anybody everybody there's an entrepreneur basically that have just congregated there so you're like you want to start a business yeah sure it's like what then you don't have those conversations I mean Miami's pretty entrepreneurial Miami's weird though it's kind of like Caribbean slash entrepreneurial um but Canada it was hard to find other people like a lot of the people who were who felt like that just moved exactly they're the brain dump right and like a lot of the smart people I know are just leaving um and it's just it's unfortunate because you're Canadian as well right and so you obviously want to see your country do well but it's uh it's sad to see it uh go the other way and unless the loss change is going to keep happening like um like whenever like our new company regen company that we have our proprietary stems like we're gonna probably situate our headquarters in like Austin or something you know what I mean like we're there's just so much going on in Austin there's just so much like there's so many like intelligent people in an Entre preneurs and stuff and but a lot of them are from Canada are just leaving and going to places like Austin yeah it's too bad I'm annoyed I really like Toronto and I think it's just going to get like worse yeah way worse yeah like that's what it looks like so the government right the bad government and bad regulators and um they're yeah I don't know if it's like I always wonder I'm like are they are they evil or are they stupid like it's hard to know well Justin Trudeau might be evil and stupid but he's definitely not that bright yeah like he he's not otherwise he like would have been doing something bright before he got into politics right yeah exactly so and Doug Ford is in Doug Ford's yeah oh well we'll see at least yeah yeah sucks um okay where can people find you online if they want to learn more yeah I'm very active on Instagram it's at dr.acon Khan so Dr Akon and uh I tried my best to check my DMs I get a ridiculous amount but uh I I do I do believe in it because like I have been just because I checked my DM like if like you know because I check them pretty regularly like I've been able to change some people's lives and like if I didn't check my DM like they would have never got better um so I do take it seriously from that perspective as much as like it's hard to keep up but sometimes um so don't like and like now with the scope of stem cells expanding like there might be hope for people who otherwise had lost hope um so hopefully like and like yes costs can be an issue obviously sometimes but um we've also we're starting a program for people like like hardship pricing and like you know be able to treat this for free and stuff like that if you're on disability like we're trying to our best to help as many people as we can because I think that at the end of the day is like uh my mission at least yeah yeah no that's really nice and I mean when things are new they're expensive when they're new and rare they're expensive so it's understandable that it's going to cost a lot now and that it'll get cheaper and that's just kind of how things work yeah unfortunately it's a great uh business opportunity and that's why we're in the in the space now for manufacturing yeah yeah cool okay well I'll link your social media handle and a couple of things we talked about Below in the show notes but thank you very much for coming on that was very interesting yeah no I'll see you in Mexico [Music]

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