Hi guys

So Dad’s going on the zero carb diet – that’s the all meat, carnivore diet. With salt and sparkling water.

Why?

He had good results with the previous diets. In the greater scheme of things, I would say excellent results. We managed to keep the extreme depressive episodes away, he’s off medication, he lost 50+ pounds, his autoimmune symptoms went away. All in all, great results.

So why the change? He’s doing it for almost the same reason as I did. His anxiety still isn’t under control. It’s under control enough to not need medication, but he still wakes up in the morning with the dread feeling. I had this before I went zero-carb too. Dread, in the morning, fading off by the evening. A little bit too much volatility. Still not a great way to live, even if it’s not full blown depression. His switch over shouldn’t really be that dramatic considering he’s only eating meat and greens right now. There won’t be any cravings. He told me he woke up this morning and figured he didn’t want to live with the anxiety anymore, so he’d give it a try.

I’ll keep everyone posted, and probably do an update in about a week. Mom’s on it, and her arthritis is gone. Dad mentioned that her skin and her legs look better than they have for 10 years.

178 Comments

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  2. Jim on April 8, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    Awesome! Good luck to him.

    I am happy to have found you as I’ve been doing high fat on and off for some time but joint pain (just had partial meniscus removal surger with advanced signs of arthritis (I am 38) last week in my knee) as well as anxiety, depression, fatigue all remained despite exercise 5-6 days/week. I have not however done it in an “elimination.” way. Using this site as a blueprint and ordered a food sensitivity test from everly well. Thank you for this info!

  3. Mila Ridout on April 8, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Hello Mikhaila,

    so what is exactly dr Peterson is switching to? He already was on meat/greens only ..what is new?

    and another questions: do you think would it be ok for someone with high blood pressure.

    I don’t have depression and only mild anxiety.
    I’ll appreciate your view on it.

    Mila

    • D-man on April 8, 2018 at 7:00 pm

      The carnivore diet is nothing but meat. So it sounds like JP is giving up greens as well. Orthopedic surgeon Shawn Baker is one of the most well-known proponents of the carnivore diet. Interview here: https://www.biohackerslab.com/ep19-dr-shawn-baker/

    • George Henderson on April 9, 2018 at 4:54 pm

      Carbohydrate restriction drops high BP fairly reliably (so watch out if on meds).
      The most common cause of “idiopathic” hypertension is high insulin and insulin resistance. Insulin controls the release of sodium by the kidney, causing the body to retain water and sodium when the level is persistently high (e.g. when eating carbs all the time).
      On very low carb diets, excess fluid volume is lost, sodium is lost with it, high BP normalises, and most people need to eat extra salt to prevent headaches and cramping.

      • cb on April 10, 2018 at 10:23 am

        Lots of folks on carnivore/zerocarb diet report not even needing to use salt, just meat+water. So unless you’re just talking about a temporary electrolyte re-balancing, I think you’re wrong about the “needing extra salt” thing.

        • Wayne Helliar on May 5, 2018 at 2:04 pm

          I sometimes get severe muscle spasms in my legs when I get out of a chair or bed. A doctor I used to see told me to keep salt near the sink, put some in a tall glass of water, and knock it back. Can add sugar, but not as critical. By the time you finish the glass the cramps will be subsiding. And it works! He said the cramps were caused by electrolyte imbalance. I feel so fortunate to have learned this, as I have used it dozens of times. That doctor passed away shortly after he told me. Any of the younger Drs. I’ve said this will role their eyes and mutter about placebo effect, but it truly does work.

          • Kenn Macdonald on May 5, 2018 at 5:47 pm

            I second that! I have heard that when transitioning from a ‘normal’ diet to a keto/carnivore diet that the kidney dump a lot of the salt they store, needed for a carbohydrate diet. This is where the weight loss due to water loss comes in at the beginning of a keto diet. So there is less salt available, and it needs to be taken in to counteract this change in body salt/electrolyte levels, other wise you’ll get what is called ‘keto-flu’. That said, I have been mostly keto for 5 years, and I do have to regularly take in salt (sea salt from salt mines rather than sea salt from the ocean) in order to prevent cramps. I try to take about a 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt every day, more of less.



  4. Kenn Macdonald on April 8, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    That is interesting news Mikhaila! I look forward to reading the results of this change in diet for your dad.
    On a side note, I am reading “Healing developmental trauma” by Heller and LaPierre. One of the affects of Early Trauma (pre-natal, birth, post-natal) is a feeling of dread, anxiety. Being pre-verbal this is difficult to heal with traditional treatment. I am presently undergoing up to 20 sessions with NeurOptimal in an attempt to deal with my own symptoms, which are similar to your fathers, which have been lifelong. The book is helpful to my understanding, hopefully the NeurOptimal assist healing.

    • Harrison Koehli on April 8, 2018 at 2:47 pm

      Just wanted to chime in here and say that I’ve been doing neuroptimal for the past couple months. Wasn’t expecting much going into it – just hoping my sleep might get a bit better and maybe my thinking would be clearer. But the big surprise for me was that after the first couple weeks my anxiety disappeared. Wasn’t as bad as what Mikhaila described, but it was almost daily – strong anxiety in situations that didn’t call for it, whether for a period of minutes or hours. I would’ve rated those episodes as maybe a 7 or 8 in terms of visceral intensity. Since starting the sessions, I haven’t had any anxiety stronger than a 2 or 3. FWIW.

  5. Mike on April 8, 2018 at 12:52 pm

    Good News! – Knowledge is power when utilized –

    I have been on a Whole Grain Plant-Based Diet for just over 7 months.

    – No more pain after working out.

    – Sleeping much better.

    – Fewer cravings through the day.

    – Skin is clear and smooth.

    – On course to break a 5-minute mile.

    – No mediation of any kind.

    – Lost 30 lbs.

    My wife had similar results.

  6. Mark on April 8, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Will be very interested in his progress on the ZC/carnivore diet.

    Have you experimented with any forms of intermittent fasting? If so, what pro or cons did you experience?

  7. Erin Reilly on April 8, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    I wish him luck, but with his life as it is maybe the anxiety is from personal attacks, etc. and not diet. Do you believe that this diet will eliminate anxiety that is not caused by specific food intake, basically acting as a medication?

  8. Robert F on April 8, 2018 at 1:26 pm

    Is coffee allowed on his diet (both formerly and with the new regime?)

    • Lorretta Ward on May 7, 2018 at 3:33 pm

      I need to know this also!

  9. Bonnie on April 8, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    I am a big fan of Dr Peterson. Also well read in the health field. How about a ton of fish and seafood to had to the mix. I am super influenced by Dr Jack Kruse who wholeheartedly supports seafood for brain health, depression etc. Keep
    Posting with updates!

  10. Kat on April 8, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    Is the anxiety HYPERVIGILENCE? That is my Modus Operandi. I’m learning that’s how I am. It is my awareness of how I coped growing up. It’s my perception, how I behave and react. I am not on anxiety medication. I take a BP med which has given me swollen ankles and feet. I exercise regulary and so BP is good. I am curious whether this eating regime would help me. I’m an active 69 year old woman. I don’t like pills and believe there are other ways to help oneself. My two cents. Cheers

    • Kenn Macdonald on April 9, 2018 at 12:35 am

      Hi Kat
      I highly recommend “Healing Developmental Trauma” by Heller & LaPierre. Hypervigilance is a sign of Connection Trauma, most generally caused by pre-natal, birth, and/or post-natal trauma. The book may be very useful for your understanding. Possibly it may be available at your public library. I know it is available here.

  11. Mikael on April 8, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    I wonder if getting a lot of light during the day, cutting out ALL blue light 3 hours before bed and just expose himself to very little amounts of warm light in the evening would help him. Be VERY strict with light for a week just to try. This + not eating carbs in the evening seem to help a little for me. There might be a lot of pieces in the puzzle that has to be right at the same time. Not saying he hasn’t tried this before… but maybe he hasn’t been strict enough. Just a wild shot.

    • kitty uk on April 9, 2018 at 5:08 am

      That is a really good point. Sleeping needs hacking, according to Dave Asprey, the Bulletproof Diet guy. Put blue blocking screens on computer and mobile phone, wear yellow computer glasses at night, and cover up all the little lights around the house and bedroom with black tape to make the bedroom really dark. Dave’s got a short youtube video about how to make your hotel room great to sleep in.

  12. Michele nolan on April 8, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Hi, ive been doing the elimination for 9 weeks now and its helped me so much. Im no longer sick all day long. No longer have stomach or gut problems. I feel fantastic. Ive lost 1st 7lb. The only thing is my psoriasis have exploded. I am now completely covered in them like i have never been in my life. How did your fathers react when he was on the diet? did they get worse before they got better? Just trying to work out how to help clear them up. X

    • Mikhaila on April 19, 2018 at 2:33 pm

      What are you eating exactly? It’s possible something you’re eating is still bothering you. The other thing that seems to help psoriasis although wasn’t useful for dad is high dose vitamin D3.

      • Michele Nolan on April 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm

        Beef, chicken, turkey collard greens, rocket, parsnips, sweet potatoes cook in olive oil or coconut oil. S&p Thats it.

        • Linda on May 4, 2018 at 11:38 am

          I had eczema until I removed every single plant from my diet and experienced tremendous improvement in all mood/emotional and autoimmune symptoms, including eczema. I was already on an elimination diet and found myself with a very short list of foods I thought were safe, like carrots and cabbage. My health improved markedly by the 7th day on meat, although I was really sick from the change in diet for about 4 days prior to starting to improve. I’ve been eating only meat for almost 3 weeks and will continue as long as my health continues to improve and stabilize. Good luck to you!

        • Mikhaila on July 11, 2018 at 10:05 pm

          Hmm. Carnivore might be worth a try. It wouldn’t take long to figure out if it worked.

      • Michele Nolan on April 19, 2018 at 3:42 pm

        Ill try the vitamin D3. Thanks

  13. Julia Clare on April 8, 2018 at 2:52 pm

    Has anyone mentioned cannabis for anxiety…high CBD seems to be the choice for anxiety ? Also Omega 3 so your body can make it’s own endocannbinoids better ….good grass fed meat should have omega 3 but when you’ve been depleted over decades your body may need a hand to get back to normal.

  14. Andrew Weisheit on April 8, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    Preach!!

  15. Pete Dowell on April 8, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    How can one claim any morality while taking the lives of sentient beings? The meat industry is the cruelest on earth, this world is hell for billions of animals. I hope he takes supplements at least, for his own well being.

    • Philip on April 9, 2018 at 6:29 am

      I truly feel bad for the people who stumble upon ignorant vomit such as your comment.

      Would you stop a lion from eating meat? Your dog? If so, you are the cruel one, friend, and it is your moral compass that you need to worry about.
      Those animals, just as we humans, have evolved to eat meat. It has been our primary source of nutrition for well over 2 millions years. We’ve brought most of the world’s megafauna to extinction.

      Eliminating animal products means sub-optimal diet and no supplements can hope to be worthy, full replacements. This article, this blog, just as thousands and thousands of other sources serve you as an example. In fact, the labels on those supplements usually say the same thing!

      There is no denying that there is a lot of unnecessary cruelty when it comes to the treatment of animals. I agree there is a lot that should be done about it, but.. Who doesn’t? Nobody I know wants animals to suffer. However, merely replacing cruelty toward them with cruelty toward humans is not okay with me, and shouldn’t be okay with you.

      You have a moral responsibility for yourself. I fail to see how being an unhealthy, frail, depressed, cachectic weakling can ever be the right thing to strive for, if there exists a way to be the opposite.
      Are you satisfied with your own life on your own diet? Fine, you do you, but, as the author says in the article, plenty of people simply don’t want to live sub-optimal lives and plenty of those people need meat for that. There can be no question about it. It is much, much more complex than “you only need the protein”. That is Mickey Mouse nutrition. No supplements we have today can solve this issue.

      Do you want to deny those people health and shame them for wanting it? Wouldn’t you kill an animal if you knew that eating it would make you healthy? Because if you wouldn’t, there is a good chance you are crazy/possessed by something very, very vile.

      Keep harming your own body if you want. Console yourself that a cow might live somewhere thanks to your noble sacrifice. Of course, if there weren’t anyone to eat that cow, it would never have lived in the first place. Just as mammoths don’t anymore. Just stay out of the lives of others.

      I suspect that people here are mostly interested in trying to improve their lives, not in listening to a misguided, misinformed individual playing moral arbiter. Stop and I promise it will feel better.
      As the person whom this article is about says in his book: people motivated to make things better aren’t usually concerned with changing other people…

      • Pete dowell on April 9, 2018 at 9:31 am

        “Would you kill an animal if it made you healthy?” Not only can humans thrive without killing animals, it’s optimal to leave them out of your diet as much as possible. There is no need to kill animals to be healthy. To be of the mindset that you have to take a sentient beings life in order for your own is to be truly possessed by something vile. Eliminating animal products is wise and the right thing to do. Your ad hominem attacks about being weak, frail, depressed etc only highlight your own ignorance and lack of argument. To consume only the flesh of animals is unsustainable and will destroy the planet. That type of diet is immoral and unnecessary.

        • Philip on April 9, 2018 at 11:00 am

          Fascinating how much you managed to get wrong in one short paragraph. Just this blog is full of evidence supporting the position I proposed while contradicting yours.

          Meat is most complex and nutritious food we have. It is the only food that we can eat without anything else and not only survive, but thrive. Last time I checked, killing animals was the only way to obtain meat. That might be sad, but there’s not much to be done about that fact.

          I’ve personally tried all sorts of diets and have used my own body to conduct the experiments for myself. I have never held any opinions for which I later attempted to find supporting evidence. No, I arrive at my conclusions based on the evidence, plenty of which is personal experience.

          So please, don’t tell me what is and isn’t good for me, as opinions of someone who hasn’t got the information and experience of the other side is completely worthless.
          Eliminating all animal products is a sure way to deteriorate their health (which can be only partially corrected by supplementation). I wouldn’t call that healthy, when there’s clearly a more optimal route.

          Also, it is you who is invoking ad hominem where no such thing occurred. If you read it properly, you’d realize I was being general and wasn’t directing that argument at you at all. The question you quoted was also a hypothetical one (even though relevant in real life) to help assess one’s sanity.
          Seems to me that you’re trying the old trick of projecting your own cognitive deficiencies as my problem, when of course, it is yours.

          In the end, I can respect a vegan who doesn’t bullshit, i.e. says that he/she only cares about not harming animals and acknowledges that the health side of the issue cannot be defended by their position (you don’t even need anything sophisticated to show that; no need to look further than at how we’ve evolved – what we’ve always eaten – and our physiology).
          I personally think it very unwise, but hey, those are your choices.

          When you start bullshiting, however, without presenting proper evidence (which, of course, you can’t, as it doesn’t exist), there’s really no chance of a reasonable dialogue and it becomes clear that you’re pushing some other (possibly political) agenda. In that case, the ad hominem wouldn’t be out of order at all, just to call you out on your BS!

          I have better things to do with my time than trying to civilize random internet ideologues. Hope that your diet works for you and that you’ll reconsider telling people what’s best for them. After all, it must be quite miserable experience, spending so much time just arguing against all this.

      • Mike on April 9, 2018 at 8:59 pm

        One of the strongest men in the world – Vegan –
        https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692366/World-strongest-man-Patrick-Baboumian-PETA-vegan

        Plant-based animals:

        – Gorilla – World record weight, 602 lbs
        – Elephant – World record weight of 27,000 pounds.
        – Rhino – Yet, again a small animal, which finds a way to the meat
        – Hippo – World record weight 9000 lbs
        – Bison –
        – Wilderbeast –
        – Some whales –

        • philip on April 10, 2018 at 4:43 am

          Not sure what you’re trying to say. The animals are, as you say, plant based. That’s how they evolved. Plants will be obviously best for them and what they should eat.
          We split from other apes a long time ago and instead became apex predators (with the ability to imperfectly process plants when meat was scarce).

          Again, with great effort, supplementation and disposition, humans CAN achieve great accomplishment without eating meat. Such diet and lifestyle will be much better than eating junk food and being inactive, no doubt. Especially young people can get away with it relatively fine. However, the amount of evidence showing that this is not the optimal route is, well, overwhelming.
          There is a reason why no strictly vegan societies survived or even really existed in the first place (we don’t know). Even the more or less vegetarian ones (some parts of Asia mostly) are extremely rare and very recent.

          The fact remains that plant based diet is rather unsustainable in the long term for most humans. Some will experience the effects worse than others (just as some can process lactose better than others), but it will never be optimal. Unless you have some very, very rare genetic predisposition that makes it impossible for you to process meat. But talking about outliers doesn’t make much sense. That is why I don’t like the extreme examples such as your Patrick Baboumian. Do you know how much better he could be with meat in his diet? N=1 is quite useless in these debates, unless you’re using your own body, which is of course relevant to you. S. Baker (orthopedic surgeon) is a strict carnivore who is breaking rowing world records in his 50’s, lifts incredible amounts for his age and claims he feels better than he did in his 40’s on diet with plants in it. Yet again, on its own, this wouldn’t tell me much, the fact is, however, that he isn’t alone and I’ve seen so much personal evidence and science documenting and supporting this side of the story that turning my eyes form it would be complete irrational.

          I should also mention that not all athletic performance means great health, which is a common mistake people make. Especially in the extreme it is often quite the opposite. Take marathon runners for instance. The sport itself is extremely unecological for the human body and the requirements often leave those athletes with one foot in the grave by the time their career is finished.
          Yes, strength training is a different story, if done completely naturally. I don’t think one can go too far there. Look at the island of Iceland. It has a few thousand citizens, yet with incredibly disproportionately high ratio of strong-men. Meat makes up vast majority of their diet there. That is some good evidence. Certainly better than a few outliers.
          Also, look at the historically carnivorous societies. They’ve never known some of the most deadly diseases, s.a. diabetes, obesity, plenty forms of cancer etc. And they have survived till now. That should tell us something.

          I truly don’t want animals to suffer, but I want humans to suffer even less. Sadly, it seems that the latter cannot be minimized without conceeding to some necessary amount of the former. Nevertheless, it is thus our moral duty to do it as humanly and with as little cruelty as possible.The moral aspect is an issuey, there is no way of going around it, but it all boils down to realizing your health, your life, must be paramount. There certainly are values worth sacrificing your health, even life for. I just don’t see how this one could ever be one of them. If an individual chooses it so, that is their choice and I am fine with it. Even though I generally wish people to be as healthy as possible. It is only when ideologically possessed people start playing moral arbiters and attempt to change other people that problems arise.

          • Mike on April 10, 2018 at 2:35 pm

            Good Afternoon,

            I appreciate the response.

            Firstly, you completely ignored the World Strongest Man, which makes sense, considering it goes against everything you described.

            Secondly, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tomy Brady, Kyrie Irving, and many sports stars embraced a Plant-Based lifestyle. Each has had huge performance increases.

            Thirdly, there are now 6% of Americans on a Vegan diet. Within 5 years it is likely to be 15% or more.

            Fourth, many of the myths regarding plant-based eating have been destroyed by results. Hypothesis and Theory are one thing. There are now thousands of Olympic and sports athletes with higher performance on a Vegan diet.

            Before researching the results of Plant-based. I was 100% in your camp. Vegan’s are weak. Evolution. The usual talking points.

            When I lived it and improved my 5-minute mile. I changed my mind.

            Here is an upcoming movie about Athletes and plant-based living:



          • Mikhaila on April 10, 2018 at 6:00 pm

            I’m sure I missed a number of things, none of which were on purpose. I wouldn’t say I “ignored the World’s Strongest Man because it goes against everything I’ve described”. That’s just not right. How do you know that cutting dairy isn’t what improved your health? How do you know it was cutting meat? And obesity and autoimmune disorders are increasing so I wouldn’t say that more people going on a vegan diet means anything really. Definitely doesn’t mean anything healthy considering people are getting sicker… probably due to misinformation about diet choices. Plants made me ill, and from what I’ve read they’re making many other people ill. It only takes a month to figure out if it’ll help you too. No point in being spiky when you can just test it out and prove me wrong…



    • Willy on April 9, 2018 at 7:14 am

      How can you claim any morality by eating plants which are sentient beings also? The agriculture industry is the cruelest on earth because it kills plants and animals alike, this world is hell for billions of plants!
      http://goodnature.nathab.com/research-shows-plants-are-sentient-will-we-act-accordingly/

      • Dream Chaser on April 9, 2018 at 9:42 pm

        I hope you are serious, or at least sincere. I follow the Ultimate Responsibility doctrine –

        I Look into the eyes of my dog and ask:

        1. Can I kill you?

        2. Can I eat you?

        My answer was, No. – My rule “Only eat what I can kill” – I can kill plants and live with myself.

        In China, they skin dogs alive and have pigs for pets.

        I try to link the body-action to the mind. I can not divorce the death from the act of eating. Unless I wish to relinquish personal responsibility.

        Thank you.

    • Patrice on April 12, 2018 at 4:46 pm

      Utter foolishness. God made man over every type of animals and so for our meat. Even my dog likes meat and I am gathering the wild animals as well who hunt after other animal species and EAT them.

      • Healthy living on April 12, 2018 at 7:48 pm

        Patrice –
        Let’s imagine you raised a chicken, hand fed it each day. Then, you could claim it was healthy.

        While when a McDonald’s burger takes three years to change color, it is no longer meat.

        – GMO’s

        – Preservatives.

        – Antibiotics to keep the animals alive. (61% of all antibiotics in the USA, are given to animals)

        – Pigs eating, dead pigs.

        – Chickens being born and within 10 seconds minced into meat paste.

        I can go on. A lion is eating a real animal. Human’s are eating Frankenmeat!

  16. John R Thompson on April 8, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    Awesome! Now people will really hate him! So good he will join our club!

  17. Jan Peeters on April 8, 2018 at 5:45 pm

    Did you see this study?
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180308143102.htm

    The enemy within: Gut bacteria drive autoimmune disease

    Does that seem to be related to both of your symptoms?

  18. Joel on April 8, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    I’ve had great improvement with strict carnivore style over the past five months. Shawn Baker has a lot of information about carnivore style. All the best, I think this way of eating could help a lot of people.

  19. Mike on April 8, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    Wouldn’t his current lifestyle and rise in status have something to do with his Anxiety? Just wondering, I mean if I was in his position I would be anxious all the time too. His life is booked solid for the next ?? year/years? Everyone wants a piece of him. I don’t know how he does it. Good on him.

    • Nick Savino on April 9, 2018 at 8:12 am

      Well said Mike! Jordan is excruciatingly careful with his words and knows doom is around the corner. He is not one to ride the 100ft wave because of the riches and fame it brings, but because no one else is capable of representing the cause like he can. In a way he is willing to martyr himself for his beliefs so that others may at least have the opportunity it’s to hear his side.

      So I agree with you it’s definitely his lifestyle and own pressure he puts on himself to get it right. Diet will help him so far, mandatory breaks in his schedule are a must as well. I know it’s what his real fans would want from him.

      Mikhaila is on the ball and is researching in order to guide him on his dietary journey. I wish Jordan inner peace and some silence when he needs it.

  20. Laurie on April 8, 2018 at 11:51 pm

    He needs to watch for adrenal fatigue. We all need greens. If he drops greens from his diet, he will become deficient in essential nutrients. Juice Festiv supplements capsules (veggie and fruit) will help a lot. Vitamin D is critical if he cannot get at least 30 minutes of direct sunlight daily. Niacin is awesome for anxiety / depression as well. Check out Dr. Berg on YouTube. He has a video that covers bodily signs of deficiencies (nails, hair, adult acne, etc..) to avoid falling into horrible health from his schedule. I did grueling work for 6 years abroad under a lot of stress. Got PTSD and drew me out from my RA remission. After 10 yrs of working on myself my body is finally improving. I know your father is so intent on creating a wave across the world with his phenominal life changing effects, but he must take care of himself or he will not reach as many folks as he could. He has that grand baby to spend time with now too 🙂 Y’all keep up the great work just pace yourself. It’s also wonderful about your mom getting her RA under control. I hope to return to remission again with my RA as well.

  21. Jim Tassano on April 8, 2018 at 11:53 pm

    The Inuit diet involved eating the meat and fat of wild animals, which themselves were eating a wild diet. The Inuit would eat the organ meat too, and much of what they ate was uncooked. Cooking destroys vitamin C and some other nutrients.

    When we eat meat and fat, we are eating animals fed an artificial diet, we don’t eat all the organs, and we cook it.

    These are important considerations in choosing an exclusive meat/fat diet. It is not the same as our hunter-ancestors would have eaten. When we follow this lifestyle, using store-bought, factory-raised meats, from animals fed Roundup-Ready crops, not eating organs, and cooking the meat and fat, we are likely going to be nutrient deficient, and find ourselves consuming un-natural chemicals.

    • Marcio on April 9, 2018 at 11:54 am

      True. But there’s plenty wild fish and shellfish being sold in Canada, Peterson could supplement his diet eating sashimi and raw oysters. Also, there are companies selling grass-fed organ meats, it’s not even that expensive, most of these organs are sold cheap because the lack of demand.

  22. Marian on April 9, 2018 at 3:43 am

    Great news about your Dad. I love listening to his talks. I have been eating just meat for over 3 years. No organs. I now know we don’t need greens. I’m well into in my 70s and feel great mental stability and physically fit and healthy. No medications. I hope never to go back to my old addictive carb laden diet. I’m sure he will do very well with this.

  23. Dima Kim on April 9, 2018 at 4:50 am

    My spouse says my skin has been extremely nice to touch since I went Zero Carb. She says she would do it cept she’s not good at cooking meat and is not a fan of fatty meats.
    I wish your father to rid of that dread!

  24. kitty uk on April 9, 2018 at 5:14 am

    I am a huge fan of Dave Asprey, the Bulletproof Diet guru. He has developed lots of vitamin supplements and recommends others. He recommends, for anxiety, 5 HTP 50 mg from Superior Source. I keep them by my desk for the really horrific stressful times, take one and I can feel the upset melting away in a short time. He says they’re safe to take all through the day. He also has good advice on jet lag which I bet your dad is also dealing with.

    • signalfire on April 9, 2018 at 11:23 am

      Be careful with 5-HTP if you’re not familiar with it; it is a serotonin donor and there are serotonin receptors in the small intestine, just past the stomach. When 5-HTP hits those, esp. the first time or two, the body reacts by making you extremely nauseous. They appear to ‘burn out’ after the first few times, though. 50 mg is a large dose and would set off most people. Not a good look to be puking your guts out at work. That said, 5-HTP is great for depression and much safer than Rx anti-depressants.

      • kitty uk on April 9, 2018 at 12:10 pm

        I’ve taken 5-HTP three or four times in the last few months, when I have been driven crazy and it’s worked beautifully, with no nausea at all. I sometimes feel nauseous when I’m in ketosis and a bit dehydrated. I take a salt tablet with a liter of water, from recommendation, and that has worked well.

  25. Abigail on April 9, 2018 at 9:18 am

    Do you believe diet is accountable for every issue? I’m asking because I find it very difficult to determine if it is food I’m eating versus environmental changes affecting me. I know that hormones affect how I feel a lot around my period. Lack of sleep makes me moody and nauseous. Stress from school gives me anxiety. Exercise makes me feel ill as well as not eating enough. When I’m nauseous or tired, I can’t tell if it is all these other things causing it or if it’s actually food. Have you found that external factors don’t play into how you feel and everything negative experienced is a result of food eaten?

    • Dream Chaser on April 9, 2018 at 9:58 pm

      Food is responsible for almost all of the symptoms.

      Analyze society in the USA before 1960. The rates of depression, cancer, and heart disease were tiny.

      In the 1970’s the Tobacco lobby was taken to task. 7.000 studies were released which showed proof of Cancer causation.

      The Sugar Lobby was next on the chopping block. The same methods which withheld the information on Tobacco causing Cancer were used to blame FAT instead of Sugar for the new crisis.

      Regulations were passed which restricted FAT in the 1970’s. The result, the food tasted terrible. The solution, double or triple the Sugar content. There are now 47 different names, for sugar. The food contains five times more sugar when compared to 1960.

      Remove soft drinks first, and then slowly get Sugar out of your diet. It will change your life.

  26. Ted on April 9, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    Your patreon link is not working.

  27. Steve K. on April 9, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    How do you get your daily ~2,000 calories from your meat diet? How much meat must you eat to get enough energy from your food? If you don’t get your calories for your body metabolic needs you will obviously lose weight. You can’t go on forever with your meat diet if you continue to lose weight.
    Btw, if you overload on meat protein you will be unable to fully and properly digest the meat in your stomach and intestines. It will simply putrify and come out very smelly and dark. Your bile flow will also be stressed. Watch out.

    • Steve K. on April 9, 2018 at 6:12 pm

      p.s. Also suggest you read up on “gout” and high uric acid concentrations due to excess meat diet.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gout

    • Erik Johansson on April 10, 2018 at 10:35 am

      Steven K, interesting.

      I do find this diet interesting and I’m on a plant-based diet so basically the opposite and I’ve been on it for a decent time. I’ll definitely follow people on this diet to see updates. It doesn’t seem to be greatly tested.
      I also haven’t seen much scientific research that would suggest it’s a beneficial diet. People are using their subjective experience as an indicator, like Shawn Baker.

      Those diets become ideological for people.
      I mean it’s not that crazy because people will claim anything is the “cure” for all health issues. People are drinking Hydrogen peroxide and other similar stuff and swear that it’s the cure for every disease. It’s a weird thing, we as humans want to latch on to those beliefs.

      • Mikhaila on April 10, 2018 at 6:01 pm

        Totally fair. It sounds unbelievable too. But now I don’t have acne or depression or arthritis. The skin issue and arthritis can actually be measured, and they’re gone. Related to diet. Obviously it’s also anecdotal, but that’s all we have for now.

        • Steve K on April 11, 2018 at 12:43 am

          Your digestive system will soon react adversely because your gut microbiota will be overwhelmed by that protein overload.
          You just can’t suddenly shock your intestinal environment and expect no long term consequences. You may have relief from your chronic problems but you will run into new problems unrelated to your problems.

          • Jennifer on April 12, 2018 at 2:54 pm

            Steve, I first found the all meat diet nine years ago. Since then I’ve seen hundreds and hundreds of people try it, and the events you predict simply don’t happen. If you’re open to learning more, search for Zero Carb groups in Facebook. There’s a huge amount of information about what to expect and the benefits people experience.



        • Erik Johansson on April 12, 2018 at 6:20 am

          Mikhaila, that’s interesting.
          Did you compare blood work pre and post diet?

          I definitely understand why you would want to stay on the diet if it works. You did eat certain greens before right? Did that also trigger your issues?
          Make sure to get enough vitamin C to prevent scurvy. I think it’s possible to obtain some vitamin C from very lightly cooked meat?

  28. Matt K. on April 9, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Mikhaila,

    I’ve heard Jordan reference Freud several times in his talks, but I have never heard him reference the work of Edmund Bergler, one of Freud’s students in Austria. Bergler’s work has significantly helped me and I think the anxiety you mention cannot be fully cured, even on a carnivore diet, without looking deeper into one’s psyche.

    I recommend finding a copy of “The Basic Neurosis” by Bergler.

    • Jim Middle on April 9, 2018 at 6:49 pm

      I was going to say the same thing, except with Jung’s Liber Novus. I’ve always wanted to ask Dr. Peterson if he feels he is fully ‘individuated.’

      • Matt K. on April 11, 2018 at 10:20 am

        Cool I’ll check that one out!

    • Mike on May 15, 2018 at 12:45 pm

      Please, try not to assume that she means “cure”. I believe her words are a clear indication that this diet has helped her and people she knows, with similar genetic makeup in the case of her father. Also, I hope that this comment doesn’t cause you to feel attacked. That’s not my purpose, I understand that you want to help further recovery in any way possible. But, I would hope that her father has imparted the importance of concise expression through words. Thus, she never says “cure” in this update.

  29. Jim Middle on April 9, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    I was going to say the same thing, except with Jung’s Liber Novus. I’ve always wanted to ask Dr. Peterson if he has gone through anything similar. It seems from his emotionality that he is on the verge of a ‘non-self’ crisis. I was the same way before mine.

  30. Mulota Mwambazi on April 10, 2018 at 3:18 am

    Hi Mikhaila,

    I hope your dad does better on the new diet. I doubt you remember my name but i recommended the GAPS diet to you like six months ago. I hope you read my comment and at least gave the diet a try. anyway, i have really been reading up on stem cell research and i think you should really consider it. Joe Rogan and Mel Gibson had a chat on it that was pretty informative on his youtube channel. Give it a look, it only touches the basics though. The video is relatively short compared to most of Rogans videos.

    • Erik Johansson on April 10, 2018 at 10:24 am

      Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride seems to spew a lot of nonsense but hey, if it works for you that’s good. Don’t expect it to be the solution to every problem just because of that.

      • Mulota Mwambazi on April 10, 2018 at 1:26 pm

        I said nothing about GAPS working for everyone, and my comment was about stem cell research, not Dr Natasha McBride

  31. Erik Johansson on April 10, 2018 at 10:21 am

    Great to hear that Jordan is doing good.

    I personally don’t think we necessarily need to go to the extremes like a carnivore diet.
    Many people supposedly become healthier by eating all kind of diets like keto, vegan, carnivore. The common connection is that crap is removed. Things like sodas, sugar, vegetable oils, additives and weird other crap. And then the activity level can usually be increased because of the improved energy levels.

    But people become ideological about these diets, they become the higher truth to them. They are so focused on their own problem that suddenly their solution become the solution to every problem.

    • Mikhaila on April 10, 2018 at 6:04 pm

      I don’t agree. Try having an autoimmune disorder for your entire life, and then having it suddenly disappear when you change your diet like this. This isn’t an ideology… I don’t have arthritis anymore. Or chronic fatigue, or cystic acne, or crippling depression. People go crazy over these diets because they get better after years of doctors telling them they can’t get better. It’d make you crazy too. If all people had to do was remove sodas, sugar, vegetable oils, and additives out of their diet to fix autoimmune disorders, we probably wouldn’t have as many sick people around. It’s more complicated than that. Also, all you have to do with the all meat diet is try it for a month to see if it’s what it’s cracked up to be. Seems fairly simple to debunk.

      • mike on April 10, 2018 at 7:42 pm

        Good Evening,
        Mikhaila
        I am glad you are doing better.

        My earlier response was aimed at Phillip. I am glad you have found a method which works for you.

        My only suggestion, look for the meat which is low on preservatives and avoid fast food, at all cost.

      • Mike on April 11, 2018 at 10:25 am

        Mikhaila – My research found the following. There are four main problems with the SAD(standard American diet)

        – Sugar (With over 47 different names)

        – Dairy

        – Eggs

        – Meat

        It appears you have removed 3 out of 4. Have you tried removing meat?

        Not all meat is equal. MacDonalds can stay fresh, for two years. Factory Farming has the animals pumped with antibiotics to keep them alive. Pigs are fed dead pigs. The quality is a massive issue.

        The Concept of Debunking is illogical. Science and studies are forever a work in progress. When I read an interpretation of the China Study, do I find an alternative Study? Rarely, if ever. It is easy to have an opinion, on a study. “Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance”

        There are dozens of people who cured their Lupus with a Plant-based lifestyle. I am grateful for your health and hope it continues.

        Thank you!

      • SteveK on April 11, 2018 at 1:52 pm

        So you say, but do you have a confirming medical assessment of your claims? Have your doctors diagnosed your miraculous recovery as a result of your meat diet?
        I prefer a legitimate medical opinion and not your anecdotal claims. Why should anybody give you the benefit of the doubt and follow you? Who are you anyway other than an internet voice with a claim to fame via your distinguished father? I see a danger in your story.

      • Erik Johansson on April 12, 2018 at 6:31 am

        Mikhaila, having an autoimmune disorder is a different ball game.
        So I can definitely understand the reasoning in your situation.

        I mean otherwise regular people in terms of health/disease.
        But you’re right, testing the diet is the best way to find out I guess.

  32. Rosie Gagnon on April 10, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Your father is amazing. His lectures on being the strong person at the funeral, have really, really helped me push through my sons suicide 6 weeks ago. I’m an ultra runner, mostly eating keto for a year, I’m switching to carnivore as I prepare for a 100 mile race in a couple weeks. I feel like emotional stress is so high after my sons death that the cortisol has really affected my joints and physical recovery. I’m interested to see how this works for him, I hope it helps, the world needs his strength & voice!! <3

  33. Night1Candi on April 10, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Check out this amazing story concerning meat digestion!
    http://roarofwolverine.com/archives/412

    • Steve K on April 11, 2018 at 1:14 am

      In a normal digestive tract there is about 7 metres of intestines.
      A high protein meat diet will slow down the passage of food and you will likely experience a bout of constipation. If you are allergic to red meat you will have diarrhea.
      Extreme diets will cause extreme changes that are problematic.

      • Shawn K on April 20, 2018 at 9:41 pm

        The Inuit lived successfully on nothing but animal based food for thousands of years. Why does diet have to be ideological, especially given the complexity and variability of human beings?

        • Mikhaila on April 20, 2018 at 11:10 pm

          Because everything has to be ideological. It’s so annoying. I don’t understand how people can be angry about this…. Try things out, see how you feel, perhaps feel better? Hopefully feel better! People could just be happy about it, but ideology sneaks in there and poisons things again and again.

          • Mike on May 15, 2018 at 1:04 pm

            I think you could copy and paste the middle of this comment as a rebuttal of 90% or more of the people who are “concerned” or “worried” about your claims.
            “Try things out, see how you feel, perhaps feel better? Hopefully feel better!”
            Thank you for doing the leg work on this diet. It sucks that you had to experience what you did in order to put you on this journey, but the impact that you can have because of it is incredible.



      • Mike on May 15, 2018 at 1:07 pm

        Double negative = positive So, you should hope to be at least a little allergic to the meat. The diarrhea will help with the constipation.

  34. Manuel on April 11, 2018 at 6:32 am

    What about dry aged beef?

  35. Ken Macdonald on April 11, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Hi Steve K
    Are basing your statement on personal experience? or is this theoretical? If you follow (have you?) Mikhaila posts from the beginning you will see that it has been a long hard journey, she did arrive where she is now by a theoretical process but by an experiential process. Your statements are mostly covered in her blog posts.

    • SteveK on April 11, 2018 at 1:55 pm

      So what is your diagnosis of her miraculous recovery from her personal ailments? Should everybody reading her blog try her meat diet with no concern for adverse outcomes? Where is the impartial medical explanation for her recovery from a litany of medical ills? Is she a reliable source for dietary decisions by others? I have legitimate unresolved suspicions.

      • Kenn Macdonald on May 5, 2018 at 5:38 pm

        OK, thanks for that. Essentially you have told me that you have not read all of Mikhailas blog posts. As for a diagnosis, who knows. I am not a medical pro, so I don’t do ‘diagnosis’. No one reading this blog “should” do anything, never mind a carnivore diet. If people reading this have health issues that they have been unable to rectify in whatever way they have tried to in the past, and want to try a carnivore diet, that is their choice. This blog is not the only source of info on a keto/paleo/carnivore diet. You seem to think medical explanations are impartial. Really. Are you you aware that the 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S.A. is idiopathic? (caused by the medical system). Mikhaila is a reliable source of info for Mikhaila, and it seems, for her father. As a human being, she is also potentially a reliable source of info for other humans as well. Considering human evolutionary biology, that’s not difficult to understand, as we would have never survived multiple ice ages except being eating animals (lots of meat and fat)
        I think I understand your suspicions, as the info here (and elsewhere) counter the info we here constantly told through mass media and conventional/government sources. If you would like to deal with this suspicion/fear I suggest you read up on evolutionary biology. It’s up to you.

    • SteveK on April 11, 2018 at 1:57 pm

      So what is your diagnosis of her miraculous recovery from her personal ailments? Should everybody reading her blog try her meat diet with no concern for adverse outcomes? Where is the impartial objective medical explanation for her recovery from a litany of medical ills? Is she a reliable source for dietary decisions by others? I have legitimate unresolved suspicions.

      • Healthy Living on April 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm

        Steve K – Turn on the TV. Go for a drive. You can not go two minutes without being fed an option for junk food. Most people are on the SAD(Standard American Diet). How about trying it out for yourself? If you are happy with your health, stick with it. While, if not. Then try a change. You get what you are, not what you want.

  36. Mark on April 11, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    ADVERSE OUTCOMES????????? From trying meat only 30 days???

    There needs be no impartial medical explanation. Be skeptical…and do it anyways.

    No one is forcing steak down your throat.

    Did she come into your house and yell at you to eat meat? No. Guess what, you visited HER site where you came to see HER opinion. And then you’re aghast she is recommending it as an OPTION?

  37. Lydia on April 12, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    It would have been helpful if there was a “before” and “after” set of photos on her skin condition. Are there any confirming photos?

  38. Healthy Living on April 13, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    Here is a 1-hour debate between the Keto and the Plant-based lifestyle.

    A friendly discussion between Kip Andersen, Dave Asprey, and Dr. Joel Kahn. The question they explore is, “what is the ideal diet?” Each guest approaches this subject in a very different way, and we hope that the dialogue between them can bring more clarity to this perennial question.

    Kip Andersen is the director of the documentary “What the Health;” Dave Asprey is the author of “The Bulletproof Diet;” and Dr. Joel Kahn is the author of “The Whole Heart Solution.”

  39. Healthy Living on April 13, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    Dr. Shawn Baker finally released his lab results:

  40. Mikhaila on April 17, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    Hi Mikhaila,

    Thank you for the post. Your mention of Dr. Peterson’s feelings of dread which fade in the evening are interesting. I have felt this dread in the morning, but usually for me it is more a depression and anxiety. If I am fatigued, I will feel depressed and anxious throughout the evening. If I am not fatigued, my depression and anxiety almost entirely fades away around 7 pm and I often feel joy. This schedule has made me think it is more than feelings I can control — perhaps diet is involved, but I cannot say. I haven’t tried altering my diet, but I am curious to see how Dr. Peterson does. I typically eat dinner at 5:30, but I don’t know if that matters.

    I have Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which is hypothyroidism caused by an autoimmune disorder as opposed to iodine deficiency. The autoimmune part is mysterious. Perhaps this is related to my fading of depression in the evening. I haven’t mentioned this to my doctor, though, because I don’t feel like anything will come of it. My glucose has been high for ten years despite mostly healthy eating, and my doctor suspects it is related to the hypothyroidism. If Dr. Peterson has not been checked for hypothyroidism, he should consider it. I spent a year and a half being tested for everything under the sun before they discovered hypothyroidism was involved.

  41. Jason on April 17, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Hi Mikhaila,

    Thank you for the post. Your mention of Dr. Peterson’s feelings of dread which fade in the evening are interesting. I have felt this dread in the morning, but usually for me it is more a depression and anxiety. If I am fatigued, I will feel depressed and anxious throughout the evening. If I am not fatigued, my depression and anxiety almost entirely fades away around 7 pm and I often feel joy. This schedule has made me think it is more than feelings I can control — perhaps diet is involved, but I cannot say. I haven’t tried altering my diet, but I am curious to see how Dr. Peterson does. I typically eat dinner at 5:30, but I don’t know if that matters.

    I have Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which is hypothyroidism caused by an autoimmune disorder as opposed to iodine deficiency. The autoimmune part is mysterious. Perhaps this is related to my fading of depression in the evening. I haven’t mentioned this to my doctor, though, because I don’t feel like anything will come of it. My glucose has been high for ten years despite mostly healthy eating, and my doctor suspects it is related to the hypothyroidism. If Dr. Peterson has not been checked for hypothyroidism, he should consider it. I spent a year and a half being tested for everything under the sun before they discovered hypothyroidism was involved.

  42. Jon on April 18, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Hello,
    Please, you and your dad, check your ears for diagonal creases in the earlobe. (it looks like your Dad has a bit of it) This is a sign of atherosclerosis, and if you are getting too much LDL in your blood from fatty meat, you *might be exacerbating that. (I am totally not a doctor, just someone who thinks laterally and is ravenous for information)

    I have very similar symptoms to your Dad (from what he described), and have also gone on a zero carb diet. The thing that describes me the most is ankylosing spondylitis, which is an inflammatory autoimmune disease that is highly associated with HLA-B27 gene variation. (I have hip/back/neck pain, eye floaters, vision problems, sleep problems, mental fog, etc., but no formal diagnosis)

    So far the diet has really helped my vision and mental well being (probably due to the die off of the inciting pathogen), but it hasn’t completely removed the pain yet. And, I have these diagonal creases in my ears myself. So, I am going to start on the Tumeric (Curcumin), Green Tea (egcg), hops (xanthohumol), and Omega 3 (DHA/EPA) to reduce the inflammation further and get my Omega 6/ Omega 3 balance in check. (will probably lean up my meats also for a bit)

    Inflammation is a big factor in the onset and progression of atherosclerosis. And, sub-clinical atherosclerosis is associated with autoimmune disease (due to the inflammation). So, whatever autoimmune disease is causing your issues, take care of your heart as well.

    • brigitte martin on April 25, 2018 at 10:27 am

      Jon, thanks for sharing. i learned something from your post. Question though. Have you done a food sensitivity test? I’m asking because was taking omega 3 supplements, but i just realized the one i was taking contains sardines, and sardines is one of the things i should exclude based on the results of my test. I have to find one that doesn’t contain sardines….

  43. Rico Suave on April 18, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    So you’re essentially claiming that green vegetables cause anxiety upon waking? Christ.

  44. brigitte martin on April 25, 2018 at 10:22 am

    Mikhaila, i just wanted to thank you for starting this blog and inspiring people in watching what they eat. I myself needed a small push to try the exclusion diet based on my own food sensitivity test. Because to tell you the truth, when i first saw the results, my first reaction was: screw this, I’m not doing it” , because of all the exclusions i have to do. But you gave me the necessary push. I’m off dairy, grains, soy, gluten, some specific nuts, egg white, potatoes, rices, beans…basically a ton of things based on my test. I tried the vegan diet for a year and a half before that, i guess that helped with the discipline of restriction. But being vegan, i increased my intake of soy and i was eating whole grains, and i actually felt a worsening of my arthritic symptoms, and some intestinal issues. Following a diet based on the results of my food sensitivity test is my last hope. Your father takes care of my soul, you take care of my body… what a wonderful family you’re a part of:) Again you have my warmest thanks. oh, and please ignore the trolls that will inevitably make it onto your platform. There are a lot of hateful people out there; but know your testimomial is helping many of us, and this alone should lift your spirit. I wish you well with your beautiful daughter. God knows she’s well surrounded.

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  46. Kristin on May 3, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    When would you say your floaters went away? Your father mentioned in an interview that his floaters went away as well after trying your diet, so I’m curious!

  47. Martin Gifford on May 8, 2018 at 8:38 am

    Jordan is always drinking Coke in his lectures. All that caffeine might partly cause the anxiety.

    • Mikhaila on May 8, 2018 at 10:57 pm

      That’s before the diet!

  48. Lucas on May 8, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Hi mikhaila,
    first of all i am very happy for you and your father, that you figured out a key factor of your (mental) health problems. This is just amazing.
    I have a few questions and i would appreciate it, if you could answer to them.

    I am a very sporty and fit guy, age 29. I have been dealing with light obesity and medium severe acne when i was a teenager. Trying to lose some weight i tried several different diets. very low calorie, 3 (useless) shakes a day – no meals, low carb, zero carb, ketogenic, and so on.
    I think i found the beste diet for me personally with about 100 carbs a day, lots of protein and lots of greens. No fast sugars. No refined food.
    But reflecting those days, i came to the conclusion, that the more i avoided carbs, the more brainfog i developed when i occasionally ate them. This is kinda strange to me, to be honest, and i did some research on it and found out, that a strictly low – / zero-carb based diet can cause huge negative impacts on insulin sensitivity. Did you both notice such a phenomenom as well? I mean, you more you avoid carbs, the more vulnerable you get to them.

    Did you make bad experience with oats, as they seem to lower and stabilize ones insuline levels, unlike other carbs?

    Further, i noticed that you two absolutely avoid milk and dairy products in general. Is this only because of the carbs contained in them? Are there any other reasons? If yes – which ?

    Did you notice any kind of massive dehydration after eating carbs or eating dairy products? My brother suffers from this problem, doctors do not have any explanation for this. There are days when he rapidly flushes out up to 6-7 liters, almost like overnight, resulting in severe depression and fatigue.

    In one of your posts you mentioned that your dad started exercising. What is his training routine? Weightlifting, cardio? Did he / you notice any difference regarding your mental / emotional state after working out? Cardio vs Weights (I ask because … it may sounds strange … lifting weights sort of stresses me, while cardio training does exactly the opposite.)

    Thats all, for now.
    Pardon my english.

    Best wishes from Germany

    lucas

  49. Gabe on May 13, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    Mikhail,
    1) are you by any change Blood type O, your dad as well?
    2) How long till J.Peretson’s eye floaters go away on his diet?
    Thank you

  50. Kat on May 16, 2018 at 8:56 am

    To Mikhaila How is the Atkins Diet (carb) the same or different from your Meat diet?

  51. Kat on May 16, 2018 at 8:58 am

    Correction – Atkins no carb Diet and your Meat Diet? Compare?

    • Nick on July 9, 2018 at 8:53 am

      Really? Do some research.. Atkins incorporates vegetables, and other low carb things. Meat only means literally almost 0 carb intake.

  52. Jim on May 17, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    What about vitamin C ?

    • Nick on July 9, 2018 at 8:54 am

      Watch videos about it. Its been studied that if you don’t eat carbs, your need for vitamin C drastically drops. Most of what we know about health and “food requirements” are all based on lies.

  53. George on May 21, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    I was listening to NPR and there are two studies talking about why fasting (regardless of the religion) is healthy. A healthy digestive system is supposedly the one with the most divers microbe community hence hunter gatherers were considered the healthiest in that sense.
    This brings me to another point (not scientific, just my observation) where each person clings onto a diet and claims it does miracles for them. I think that dramatic change in eating is what diversifies your gut and in that transition (few months to a year) your body is improving dramatically because no gut microbe (or group) is dominating the digestive system in that transition. Hence why religion installed the 4 (depends) fasting events throughout the year where you’d change what you eat dramatically. That is why I see each person strongly convinced that their diet is the best. Many of them start to suffer from same symptoms prior to eat switching their eating habits, once they have been on the new regime for a few years.

    Just food for thought, pun intended. No matter how much I rely on traditional advice it is always nice to see some scientific finding backing it up. The problem is the inherent complexity of the human body can render almost any study insignificant…

  54. Nox Dineen-Porter on June 4, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    What are you doing for basic micro-nutrient and electrolyte intake?

  55. joskun on June 19, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    Yea that’s what I want to know, about electrolytes and vitamin c. Also I’m guessing caffeine wouldn’t help with anxious people. I work on my feet all day and noticed if I take a cup at 115pm and do 15min of deepbreathing, I feel the anxiety coming on around 4-5pm. I usually get dinner at 6pm and after I eat I’m good to go again. I want to replaced coffee with Gatorade but that 21g of sugar 🙁

    • KATY HOWARD on July 8, 2018 at 12:55 am

      If you are looking for the same benefits as Gatorade, try taking a couple shots of sauerkraut brine instead.

  56. Jason on July 2, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    is there somewhere on here where you give a list of what he eats for a typical day? or recipes? also what about eggs?

    • Andrew Stouppe on July 11, 2018 at 7:11 pm

      He said it’s beef, salt and sparkling water on the Joe Rogan podcast. He also mentioned frying cubes of beef fat until they get crispy on the outside.

  57. Lee on July 3, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    Search this on Youtube for some insight into the Carnovore diet ‘OUR GUT: Unlike Great Apes, SPECIALIZED for Eating Meat, Not Plants’

  58. Daniel Jupp on July 5, 2018 at 5:04 am

    Thats great to hear. I’m happy for you guys and I appreciate you sharing. I had steak for lunch yesterday and today so I guess hearing your dad talk about his diet has started to sink in. My question is… If I do the carnivore diet, half-assed do you think I’ll still see results? For example: a protein shake for breakfast, steak for lunch, and an average dinner with meat, carbs, and vegetables.

    • jsam on July 5, 2018 at 9:20 am

      No.

    • Kenn Macd on July 5, 2018 at 5:42 pm

      Sounds more akin to a ketogenic diet, if your evening carbs are low enough.Why eat anything in the morning if you are not hungry? If you are hungry in the morning I’d eat real food, not a protein shake. Why don’t you just try it for a month and see hoe it goes?

  59. lean-n-mean on July 6, 2018 at 8:38 am

    I would love for someone to address the bad breath issue that comes along with this diet….

    • Kenn Macd on July 6, 2018 at 1:39 pm

      HI lean-n-mean. bad breath? usually caused by acetone in the breath, which is because your liver is starting to produce keytones. This is temporary, because your body is not used to using keytones. Once your body remembers how to use keytones, the acetone breath should go away (right now your body is probably spilling keytones (butyrate and acetone) into your urine and breath because it is not setup to use them. If your have ketostix to measure keytones in urine, they will probably be high. If not, and your have acetone breath still, time to see a doctor.

  60. Sydney Pirtle on July 6, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    Mickhaila I heard about you from your dad being on Rogan’s podcast. I took your survey and will be starting the carnivore diet soon. I have some symptoms that I want to see if they clear up with this diet. Thank you for all your information and can’t wait to read more!

  61. tonya on July 7, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    After listening to Joe Rogan’s interview with your dad discussing the carnivore diet. Had a few questions for u. Do u only eat beef? Do u use any spices? Is your meat special- grain fed, antibiotic/hormone free etc? Going to give it go!

    • Daniel Jupp on July 11, 2018 at 10:01 pm

      Dr. Peterson said he eats only beef now and uses only salt for seasoning. I’m not sure if he’d always have the option of antibiotic/hormone free or special grain feed since he’s been on the road with Dave Rubin recently. I’ve been adding more beef protein to my diet and cutting back on carbs but going full carnivore is probably not necessary since I’m fairly healthy.

  62. Vladimir Maricic on July 17, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    I’m not big on eating red meat, is it possible to be on this diet by eating chicken? Or is red meat (beef specifically?) required for whatever reason?

    • Kenn Macd on July 18, 2018 at 12:49 am

      apparently chicken is not high in nutrition. (you can do a web search om vitamins/minerals on meats). How about Pork? Fish? Lamb? Goat?

    • Lewis on August 5, 2018 at 9:18 pm

      If you are the whole chicken and organs I’m sure it could be done. Just don’t eat only chicken wings every day! No anecdotal evidence to say it can’t be done!

  63. Lindsey on July 21, 2018 at 7:59 am

    Has your dad looked into Vitamin D deficiency? I had major depressive symptoms and found our my Vitamin D level was at 25 (should be about 70-80), started taking a K2 + D3 (5,000 IU’s a day) supplement (important to take those together), my depression/anxiety went away, and my level raised to 67 within two months! See a lot of people with questions and if anyone is looking for recipe books/meal plans for a strict keto diet then search for Maria Emmerich. Her book “Keto” is a wealth of information and there’s also a Keto Facebook page where she and her husband try to inform people on this way of life.

  64. Charlotte Price on July 30, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    dear Mikhaila,

    When I heard your dad talking to Joe Rogan recently, he mentioned leg cramps. I’ve been carnivore for two months and my feet and legs are cramping so badly it wakes me up at night. Some people suggest electrolytes but I want to be careful there too because magnesium gives me diarrhea. Did your dad solve this?I’m exhausted from getting woken up. And the pain is quite intense.

    Thanks
    Charlotte

    • Mikhaila on July 30, 2018 at 1:29 pm

      More salt!! Way more salt. That’s how I solved mine. Just regular himalayan salt

  65. Charlotte Price on July 30, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    Is Celtic sea salt ok? Or only Himilayan? I heavily salt my food and I don’t know how much more I can take…. how much do you take?

    • Mikhaila on July 30, 2018 at 1:40 pm

      I’ll measure it out in the next couple of days and see how much I actually eat. I don’t know if there’s a difference. I take himalayan but I can’t imagine that would make much of a difference. Have you tried potassium? They make pure potassium powder as well that is fairly salty. It might be worth experimenting with that as well. I’ll update the blog about salt on Thursday

  66. Charlotte Price on July 30, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    Yes I’m taking trace minerals potassium. Helps me feel better overall but the cramps continue.

    Thank you for responding so quickly. It’s really kind. I can kind of feel like I’m in the desert on this diet. If I mention problems with it, most people would tell me I’m nuts to be on it, especially since I didn’t go on it to solve my own major health issues, but to accompany my diabetic husband and friend with heart disease, both of whom wanted to give it a try.

    My major benefit has been the joy of being released from thinking about buying and cooking food, the total simplicity of it and the space that leaves in my life. But now with this symptom, I’m back to thinking about it….

    • Mikhaila on July 30, 2018 at 7:01 pm

      Well good luck! I had cramps in May. No idea why it took that long and I’m not entirely sure why they went away but I havent had any since the beginning of June. And I did up my salt intake but that’s it…

  67. Lindsey Janiszewski on July 30, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    The diarrhea could just be the type of magnesium that you take. Mag Citrate loosens stools but Magnesium Glycinate is safe for most people and is the most absorbable form. I take 400-800 mg a day of Doctor’s Best High Absorption Magnesium Chelated brand. It’s gluten and soy free:)

    • Charlotte Price on August 2, 2018 at 3:56 pm

      Thank you for magnesium recommendation. I have upped the salt intake and am taking 400 mg magnesium. After two days, the cramps are virtually gone and I’m sleeping! The magnesium knocks me out.

      • Mikhaila on August 2, 2018 at 4:08 pm

        That’s awesome!! Hopefully not sleeping too much.. Are there added ingredients in the magnesium or is it just powder?

  68. Jenny Tennant on August 1, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    I have a home flock of range chickens for meat and eggs. I don’t see eggs mentioned here, so what are your thoughts? Both eggs & meat from my flock are far more flavorful (and the meat tougher) than those commercially produced.

    • Mikhaila on August 1, 2018 at 8:45 pm

      I didn’t tolerate eggs very well at all. I’d recommend leaving them out for the first month so you can reintroduce and see how they make you feel

  69. John Prescott on August 2, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    Listening to yourself and your father has inspired me. I can commit, but hate to lose my Fibre One (no sugar, but 25g in carbs), blueberries, and the skim milk. (I like the fibre) Gut feeling is that you are going to say ditch Fibre One serving. True?

    • Mikhaila on August 2, 2018 at 3:16 pm

      Oooh yeah I am not a fan of that!! It’s basically just wheat and corn! Forget breakfast foods altogether.

  70. Jack Last on August 3, 2018 at 1:47 am

    Hi Mikhaila – How do you get around food becoming boring if you just eat meat continuously? What are your thoughts on coffee – the beverage of life 🙂 ? Cheers

  71. Dom on August 5, 2018 at 8:57 am

    Is coffee not recommended?

    • Jeroen on August 6, 2018 at 12:52 am

      I know Atkins advises against coffee (and black tea too) because some of the chemicals in it seem to have an adverse effect on the body’s ability to process dietary fat and protein properly.

  72. Gints Reinsons on August 16, 2018 at 8:59 am

    I am delighted with your success and I am very grateful for what you are able to offer to people around the world. Greetings from Latvia 😉

  73. Borlo Reirlagh on August 24, 2018 at 9:15 am

    My dad has bad issues with anxiety and I want to find a solution for him, because he seemingly won’t himself. Carnivore diet may work for him, but it’s so hard to get him to try doing anything differently, especially something as drastic as a complete diet change.

    • Mikhaila on August 24, 2018 at 9:53 am

      Even just cutting grains and dairy might help enough to convince him to give something more drastic a try. Something like the paleo diet can help people too. It just doesn’t seem to be enough for everyone like beef, salt and water.

      • Russell on September 12, 2018 at 5:53 pm

        Have fun with scurvy and colon cancer you crack pot. Maybe if your dad wasn’t a brain dead ideologue he could refer you to some actual scientific research on diet, or even the content of every traditional diet including some fruits and vegetables. Please fuck up your own health and don’t broadcast this absurd shit.

        • Mikhaila on September 12, 2018 at 7:20 pm

          Dude. If I was going to get scurvy it would have happened already. But thanks for the health wishes 🙂

          • Wayne McManus on September 16, 2018 at 7:52 pm

            Hey, thanks for posting this stuff. I know I have food allergies that I haven’t nailed down. I have asperger’s and it think there’s some co morbidity. I have a relative who has been devastated by Crohn’s disease and I just sent him the link of your father’s interview with Joe Rogan. Not everything works with everyone, and probably not everyone needs so strict a diet, but it’s a great starting place and you have paid a very high tuition for the knowledge you give away. I don’t understand hateful comments, keep going and remember that most people appreciate your perspective.



  74. Francine Long on August 28, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    Don’t you get constipated on just meat? How do you keep your gut moving stuff along without fiber?

    • Kenn Macd on August 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm

      I can assure you that if you become constipated it has little to do with eating meat. hydration may be the issue. what makes you think you need fiber? Is that your direct experience?

      • Russell on September 12, 2018 at 5:48 pm

        Of course you need fiber – there’s no culture in history that’s loved and thrived on just eating meat. You’ll get colon cancer and scurvy. It’s totally nuts.

        • Mikhaila on September 12, 2018 at 7:20 pm

          Except Masai and Inuit?

        • Wayne McManus on September 16, 2018 at 8:05 pm

          I taught in a Yupik Eskimo village, and have studied the culture pretty well, along with other Akaska native cultures such as the Unungam and Alutiiq. With the exception of salmon berries, blueberries, and a few others, un available at most times of the year, it’s pretty much straight meat and fat, and akutaq (pronounced in Yupik a goo duck, at least that’s as close as I get), specifically, in my village, it was salmon, blackfish, seal and walrus meat, and fat. Akutaq is now mostly crisco and sugar, although some people still use animal fat. There are some people who still eat traditionally, and others who are the frozen pizza and 12 pack of soda a day crowd. No doubt the traditionalists are much more healthy and show no deficiencies at all. Not only are there meat majority cultures, but they’re thriving present day. I had students who struggled very much when they leave the village because it’s hard to get dried and smoked salmon, and impossible to get other traditional foods in Anchorage and Fairbanks, in quantities that normal people eat. I could go on, but you’re entirely off-base and I doubt you have any concern for anyone’s well being. Many people suffer and this information could help people. Is this really all you have to do?

          • Carol of Kensington on September 17, 2018 at 4:02 am

            Wayne, you rock.



  75. tristrams74 on August 30, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    Hi
    I’m going to give this a try. Like you I have always been on antibiotics. My skin is awful in spots, and I suffer severe anxiety and depression. I’ve been diagnosed as bipolar.
    I’m on day 2 and feel great but so far still anxious and my skin obviously wouldn’t clear up that quickly.
    My question is, with just beef, salt and water, will I be getting all the nutrients my body needs or should I take a multivitamin?
    Kind regards,
    Tristram

    • Russell on September 12, 2018 at 5:46 pm

      Talk to your Dr or a nutritionist for your own health. This diet is crazy unhealthy. You want colon cancer and scurvy?

      • tristrams74 on September 15, 2018 at 7:59 pm

        Been 13 days and my skin cleared up and I’m down 8 lbs. no scurvy yet.

  76. Katie on September 2, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    On Joe Rogan’s Podcast you spoke about a fat you add to lean ground beef. Can you tell me what it is and where to purchase it, please?

    • Kenn Macd on September 3, 2018 at 12:33 am

      If I recall correctly, Mikhaila said she used tallow, which is beef fat.

      • Jay Scott ANDERSON on September 9, 2018 at 8:15 am

        Beef Tallow—I just ordered some here: https://fannieandflo.net/t/beef-tallow . Received yesterday, looks and tastes awesome—now need to learn how to use it.

  77. Russell on September 12, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    This obviously isn’t sustainable and you’ll end up with severe medical problems. You’d have to be fairly clueless to not see the nuances involved in how your body functions and the realizable outcomes that make this diet a disaster.

    But desperate people will try things that have terrible long term consequences if they get short term relief.

    The Inuit people ate essentially all animal products and fat, and even they ate the stomach contents of Caribou who grazed on lichen to obtain greens.

    • Mikhaila on September 12, 2018 at 7:45 pm

      You’re misinformed about the Inuit. Do your actual research before commenting. They fed liver to the dogs, but ate the brain (which is mostly fat) and kidneys. They also fed the leanest cuts to the dogs. They didn’t eat greens except occasionally to dip in liquid fat. This isn’t short term relief. If all of your comments are going to be misinformed, rude, and negative, go harass people on twitter. This is for sick people trying to get better.

  78. Ryan on September 15, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    I have Sjogrens (Sicca) which is giving me so many issues including horrible joint problems. I started eating just beef and chicken two weeks ago. I felt better the first few days but now I just feel so weak and my whole body aches. Should I be taking any supplements?

  79. Alexander C. on September 23, 2018 at 10:45 am

    I have major depression, severe, as well as generalized anxiety. I’m trying to decide between starting the zero carb diet or still continuing to eat some greens while cutting everything else out. What would you recommend?

  80. Mercy Vetsel on October 4, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    Sounds great except that I’m neither Inuit nor Masai. We know that they’ve been eating this diet for thousands of years and show genetic differences to match, so why would you assume that it’s beneficial for the vast majority of us who have no such history?

    I don’t know if the diet is safe or healthy but I’d say the examples of just a few tribes doesn’t provide much evidence one way or the other. There are a people who live entirely on rice, entirely on grain and so on.

    My question is why limit it to beef?

  81. Benjamin on October 13, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Mikhaila, I saw on a video that you have low-ish zinc and vitamin d.

    I also have low zinc and vitamin d…no matter what I do.

    I also have bizarre reactions to lots of foods…not true anaphylactic allergies…but I DO have psychological reactions….systemic inflammatory reactions….skin reactions…etc. It’s a nightmare. I’m going to try what you are doing.

    I read about something called Pyroluria where it makes you pee out excessive amounts of zinc. I’m not sure if this is legit, but I’m looking into this. Dr. Klinghardt (lyme doc) talks about this.

    Evidently, borrelia can cause this (according to Dr. Klinghardt). Also, I think that borrelia (“lyme disease”) can also suppress vitamin D levels by blocking the vitamin d receptors. Again, I’m trying to look into this because I thought it was weird that my only abnormal labs were the same as yours.

    I have arthritis, but I tested negative for the rheumatoid factor. My arthritis is nowhere near as sever as yours, though.

    I have Northern European ancestry….which could possibly predispose me to a lot of autoimmune/autoinflammatory issues also…according to some research.

  82. Tulio Miranda on November 11, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    Hello, Mikhaila.
    I’ve grown interested in this diet since I’ve heard Peterson talk about it for the first time. I have a tough routine and a barely eat at all across they day. And the fact that I have been improving weight puzzles me a lot. I’ll give it a try.
    Can you share more details with me about that ?

    best regards,

    Túlio Miranda

  83. France Ciel d'August on December 3, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    I to have suffered from food for years …. No carbs is best for me so far… I have learned I have something called a Brewers Gut… My body turns food to sugar as is natural but then turns all the sugar into alcohol…. So I have liver issues and am in a constant state like a hangover…. I seem to be allergic to most all foods and have had experiences were I reacted with over the top symptoms like you Mikhalia… to where I’m afraid to eat anything new … I did figure out I had sticky blood.. but the doctors in the US .. have much higher safe levels for the Lab. blood draws.. then they do in Europe.. There they call sticky blood ” Hughes Syndrome” …. I found supplements to thin my blood which stopped my TIA’S and other symptoms.. Without the internet to research I’m sure I would be dead by now … So please continue your work in educating people that no matter how odd your own journey with food Do Not listen to anyone but yourself .. your body … It won’t lie to you.. Another thing I will add as one of the responders to your Blog added .. that is he has Aspergers … and I have Aspergers … Could be nothing but my research into Aspergers shows that most people have health issues mostly from food … I thought this was worth mentioning .. Bless you my dear ….. and Thanks for your refreshing honesty and openness ……… Hugs France

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