I’ve been scrolling through comments and there have been a number of questions about what type of meat I’m eating.  Sorry I don’t get to them all, I’m super busy and there are a lot of comments. They’re great to read but I’m too slow to keep up!

A couple of things:

  1. I try to buy antibiotic/hormone free grass-fed beef as much as I can. Ribeye is my favourite, but I’ll also eat blade roasts (they’re fattier), and ground beef. Grass-fed beef is really expensive so I’m not always eating grass-fed. Sometimes it’s grain finished.
  2. I always avoid antibiotics in meat.
  3. All this being said, I haven’t had a bad reaction to grain fed beef with antibiotics/hormones. When I went to Europe it was hard to tell what was in the meat. I didn’t have a reaction to any of it, even though some of it tasted awful. I don’t have a reaction to grain fed beef either. If I go to a restaurant and order a steak, chances are it’s grain fed and has had antibiotics, and it doesn’t make me flare.

I guess my suggestion would be: Shop around, look for a butcher with cheaper prices. Farmers markets are great. We shop with Mennonites on the weekend and they have inexpensive beef that’s grass-fed (although not always) and antibiotic/hormone free. If the price is a huge issue and a game changer, it’s better to just eat more meat even if it’s grain fed with antibiotics, than to not eat more meat. Theoretically, the grass-fed antibiotic-free meat is better for you (and it makes sense that it would be) so that’s what I try to eat, but I honestly haven’t physically noticed a difference between that and grain-fed with antibiotics. 

32 Comments

  1. AtlasCole on March 6, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Thank you for clearing that up. I have wondered if it was the added stuff that was causing issues.
    I think most of us understand that your life is difficult with your broken arm and working for your dad (and of course taking care of Scarlett) , it is impossible to keep up with all the comments. Just do what you can.
    I watched your dad’s latest video, looks very healthy and the beard is GREAT!
    also finally listened to the pod cast you did, great job!
    Thank you guys for all your work!
    Take care!

  2. pwyll on March 6, 2018 at 10:59 am

    I don’t think there’s any downside to hormone-free or grass-fed beef, but here’s an argument that the distinction isn’t nearly as important as the overall amount of chicken and salmon you eat:

    http://roguehealthandfitness.com/is-grass-fed-beef-worth-the-money/

    Dennis Mangan, who runs that blog, is a great source of info on the latest health & nutrition research.

    Also, here’s a handy guide to the Omega 3/6 balance in different foods:

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/pracical-approach-to-omega-fats.html

    Cheers!

  3. Alex on March 6, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    Hello Mikhaila –

    Just a couple of thoughts – Keep in mind my thoughts and $5.00 will get you a coffee at Starbucks ?

    “If the price is a huge issue and a game changer, it’s better to just eat more meat even if it’s grain fed with antibiotics, than to not eat more meat.”

    I’m not sure I’d completely agree with that statement, in fact, the dangers of eating conventionally raised animal products are pretty well documented. The toxins you ingest from conventionally raised beef may not be acute but longterm the results typically are not positive. Not only do you face the downstream consequences of eating sick (grain-fed), antibiotic laden, hormone infused animals but the ratio of Omega 6 to 3 fatty acids is suboptimal to say the least. Depending on the study you can find Omega 6 heavy animal products ranging from 16:1 to 25:1. In good news it appears that, as an example, grass-fed beef has an Omega 6 to 3 ratio range of 2:1 to 4:1. The importance of a balanced ratio is allowing the body to maintain its inflammatory to anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

    What I have found very useful in the search for grass-fed beef was saving the money to purchase a freezer. Next, I did the legwork to find a local rancher who raises only grass-fed beef and pasture raised pork. I can purchase half a cow have it all packaged and pre-frozen for under $6.00 a pound. That includes all the cuts, roasts, steaks, ribs, and ground. By supporting my local rancher he makes more money and I get wonderful beef for way less then I’d pay at a butcher shop.

    Here is a useful link:
    http://www.eatwild.com/products/canada.html

    Your doing great work – Keep it up!

    • Mikhaila on March 7, 2018 at 11:25 am

      I agree. Going grass-fed and avoiding hormone and antibiotics is a better idea than not. Finding a way to buy half a cow is a great way to save money (we do that). I do feel though that this diet is complicated enough that I want to reduce any extra difficulties. I’m extremely sensitive to what I eat and lower quality beef hasn’t made a difference to me. I avoid it, but it’s not like it makes me visibly ill, so I wanted to get that across.

  4. David Lee on March 7, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    Are you familiar with Dr. Shawn Baker (he was on Joe Rogan not too long ago); an advocate for a carnivore diet? I remember him bringing up that it’s sorta negligible the hormones you get in regular beef compared to grass-fed. Or I could be misremembering.

    • Mikhaila on March 8, 2018 at 12:18 am

      I am familiar with him. I’ve heard what he’s said about antibiotics and hormones, but I’ve also found that even minute amounts of certain things really really bother me. So I’m careful (paranoid?) about everything.

  5. Sandy on March 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm

    Hi Mikhaila,
    I wonder if genetics play into some of your sensitivities. I remember reading that your background in Norwegian and there is a group of people from northern Norway that eat nothing but reindeer meat and reindeer milk. It could be that somewhere in your DNA you might have a gene that never adapted to processing carbs. There is a great book called “Genome” that discusses how our DNA is evolving over time.

    They have also found that native people who go back to a traditional native diet have a drastic reduction in diabetes and heart disease which is rampant in the native community. It turns out that their native diet is largely meat based and similar to the ketogenic diet.

    • Mikhaila on March 8, 2018 at 12:15 am

      Who knows. I’ve had my DNA tested and nothing shows up, but there’s a lot of info in our DNA we can’t get at. I’ll take a look at that book, thanks!

  6. Alex on March 8, 2018 at 12:09 am

    You will find most US Beef is Grain fed and the majority of Australian Beef is grass fed.

  7. Joe on March 10, 2018 at 4:21 am

    Hi Mikhaila,

    I’ve previously been on a zero carb diet and for me one issue with that was constipation. Do you have regular bowel movements or are you taking any supplementation to aid you with that?

    • Mikhaila on March 12, 2018 at 2:21 pm

      Mine are regular. They weren’t for the first 3 weeks of the diet though. Are you still eating dairy?

  8. B on March 10, 2018 at 10:58 am

    we have found it much easier to buy 1/4 steer direct from a farmer, with bones for broth. I also purchase a 1/2 pig and his butcher makes a yummy sausage with 0 sugar and only the seasonings we can tolerate. (Thankfully I’m good with most spices and many herbs). This way we know our animal’s diet and health. The pigs are fed well, not just scraps or feed. I love pork, so it’s a godsend. Do you do broth? It’s been a godsend when I’m on the go, and a replacement for coffee.

    • Mikhaila on March 12, 2018 at 2:22 pm

      I’m boiling up some bones as I type

  9. Sean Keating on April 1, 2018 at 9:08 am

    I gave up a lucrative career to become an organic farmer a few years ago because like yourself I discovered that the food we are told is good for us is making us very sick. Thank you Mikhaila for creating this site. If we are not healthy nothing else matters.

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  11. Owen on May 5, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Hi Mikhaila. I’m on Day 9 of Carnivore. My stomach just won’t settle down. It’s making noises every evening and my BM’s aren’t improving. There not happening more to the point. So far I’ve mainly been eating grass fed Rump steaks. Chicken and Calfs Liver daily. Then a little bit of lamb, pork or veal mince. No dairy. No butter. Just tallow if desired. I am restless in my sleep as well. It’s 01:00 am in the UK as I write this, so much so is the discomfort. Can’t figure out what I’m doing that my body doesn’t like. Could the organ meats and the minimal glycogen in them be an issue? Have you incorporated organ meats. I’m using sea salt in large amounts and supplementing with other electrolytes. Perhaps need to just be patient and cut out liver and pork for now.

    • Mikhaila on May 8, 2018 at 10:47 pm

      Hey! Sorry for the delay. Things are going to be weird for at least 3 weeks. Symptoms might get worse. Play around with different cuts, you might be eating too little or too much fat. My digestion didn’t settle down for a solid month, and then it normalized. What electrolytes are you adding? I had bloating and diarrhea for the first month-6 weeks of the diet. My other symptoms improved so I just dealt with it and hoped it would go away which it did. If I don’t get back to you on there, feel free to email me. mikhaila@mikhost. Good luck, hope things have improved.

    • Bonnie on October 25, 2018 at 2:16 pm

      Low carb and zero carb diets can cause your body to flush electrolytes. Magnesium deficiency sounds like the culprit here. Magnesium Glycinate is the best. Others can cause loose bowels.

  12. Larissa on May 8, 2018 at 11:35 pm

    Hi Mikhaila,

    Just a quick question for you. If you don’t mind, could you share where you get your grass fed beef? I know you said a Mennonite farm, but could you share which one, specifically? I live in Toronto as well and would love to find a source for grass fed beef I can actually trust. Thanks so much! 🙂

  13. Katharine on June 2, 2018 at 1:31 am

    Hi Mikhaila,

    Your story and blog are so inspiring. My husband suffers from Crohn’s disease and some other issues, and we have noticed that he did best on an essentially “Paleo” diet… But as one does, we’ve fallen off the wagon. Time to get back on!

    That said, I have recently been reading the Nourishing Traditions…philosophy, I guess? That book encourages consumption of dairy, as long as it’s cultured and the individual doesn’t have symptoms of an intolerance, and consumption of grains as long as they’re soured, sprouted, or soaked before preparing (supposedly the are traditional methods).

    Do you have any experience with these Nourishing Traditions ideas? I find it hard to understand how we can cut out bread, the “staff of life” for much of our history, completely. Ditto dairy, when surely owning a cow and utilizing her milk, cream, and butter was as normal for many people as having chickens around for the eggs for centuries? I do think it’s plausible that modern mass-produced versions are bad for us, though…?

    Thanks,

    Katharine

    • Jo on August 22, 2018 at 10:52 pm

      Hi Katharine,

      I just wanted to give you a word of warning.
      Nourishing Traditions is an ok book, but, be aware that Weston Price himself told people not to consume rancid oils or fats. He was right and saw it’s devistation in the experimental animals. It destroys hearts, livers, etc. Some people from the Weston Price groups advocate the use of “fermented cod liver oil”. It is rotten and will destroy health just like Weston Price discovered many years ago.

  14. Rich on July 18, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    Hey Mikhaila

    Thank you for running this blog and giving us an insight into some alternative dietary choices.

    I wanted to ask, because I didn’t see anywhere on this page a mention of you eating many white meats such as chicken – Are you pretty much entirely focusing on cow and other types of red meat?

    Also, I had always been led to believe that red meat really isn’t something you shouldn’t eat too much of. I haven’t done any immediate research prior to posting this comment, so excuse me if this has been disproven, but what are your beliefs on this? Is there a reason why you aren’t eating a small amount of red meats and otherwise focusing on white?

    Thank you

    Rich

    • Jeroen on August 5, 2018 at 2:00 am

      Red meat is villified more because of industry pressure from competing food producers than anything else.
      It’s no different from the “food pyramid” promoting people to eat a diet that’s basically 90% starch and sugars, it’s all due to politics rather than what’s a proper diet.

  15. KevinC on July 25, 2018 at 9:04 am

    Hi Mikhaila, Iam delighted for both you and your father that ye are doing alot better now i have listened to the the Joe Rogan podcast with your Dad and also your Q&A video on youtube. I have been suffering with headaches(veins bulging in my head near my temples and my hand) and floaters in my eyes and also muscles twitching all over my body. Iam really interested to know when exactly did you start noticing the floaters in your eyes disappearing was it after the carnivore diet or the previous diet with greens & meat. I would be very grateful if you could let me know. Hope you are still feeling happy and healthy.

  16. VERNON HAWKS on August 4, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    Just to help clarify. No beef or dairy that is sold in the US or Canada and most all other countries has antibiotics in them. It is against the law to do so with heavy fines to pay. Products are tested to check also.

    Animals may have been treated with antibiotics at some point in time in their life if they were sick. During that treatment time and for a set withdrawal period after the meat can’t be harvested and the milk can’t be sold.

    I just want people to be educated and not afraid. Also don’t be fooled by the false marketing that it is “antibiotic” free because it all is.

    • Mikhaila on August 4, 2018 at 8:24 pm

      All I know is I have a hard time digesting lower quality meat. I think it’s unwise to assume we know what actually happens when we give cows antibiotics. We know that once humans take them they basically lose parts of their microbiome that they can’t replace. We don’t know what that does to meat. That being said, lower quality meat doesn’t give me a flare up. Just digestive issues. But that’s something.

      • Jeroen on August 5, 2018 at 2:17 am

        Lower quality meat tends to contain more hard to digest ligaments and stuff, which might cause stress on your digestive system.
        Also, we’ve had several scandals here in Europe the last few years where meat processing industries were found to be selling illegal horse meat as beef, horse meat that came from riding horses and other sources that aren’t subject to the medical restrictions that animals raised for human consumption are.
        Might well be similar things are going on in Canada and the US.

        Sadly, with so much of competition between supermarkets being based exclusively on price, quality of food overall is taking a nosedive over the last few years.

  17. fabian on August 22, 2018 at 10:29 am

    Did you never get cross-contamination from ground beef? like if they used spices in the grinder before grinding your beef?

    • Mikhaila on August 22, 2018 at 11:13 am

      It’s never happened yet. Butchers are generally pretty good about it

      • fabian on August 22, 2018 at 11:35 am

        Ok 🙂

  18. PhilM on September 12, 2018 at 3:26 am

    Hello, I am new to this but I’m wondering what your take on eggs is? They aren’t technically in the dairy category but have you had any bad reactions to them when you’ve tried to eat them? Thanks!

  19. Ilyas Husain on October 29, 2018 at 2:34 am

    You can’t avoid antibiotics in poultry, unless you are willing to buy organic poultry which is prohibitively expensive.

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