#55 – Gregg Hurwitz – How to Write Thrillers

Gregg Hurwitz is an American novelist, scriptwriter, and producer and a family friend I’ve known since I was a kid. He’s just released his newest book in my favourite thriller series, Orphan X: Prodigal Son (​).

We discussed Gregg’s interactions in politics with the democratic party and different groups all over America (worth a listen even if you’re a grumbling republican – or especially if you are :). We get into Gregg’s writing on his Orphan X series, dissecting the characters and how Gregg approaches writing fiction. We also spoke about Gregg’s time writing other books, comics, and some of his shared histories with the Peterson family.

Find Gregg Hurwitz on Twitter @GreggHurwitz, and check out Gregg’s new book and all his other books at

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Show Notes:
[0:00​] Intro
[2:30​] Gregg Hurwitz’s background story
[3:30​] Working with the Democratic Party after Donald Trump’s election
[8:30​] Gregg and Mikhaila discuss the western political spectrum, moderates, left-leaning, and right-leaning perspectives
[10:30​] Social and political trends towards the further separation of people into groups that cannot or chose not to interact well with one another
[18:00​] The importance and utilities of surrounding yourself with a variety of different people and groups.
[20:00​] Gregg Hurwitz’s Orphan X series
[21:00​] Graphic novels and comics for DC and Marvel
[24:00​] Gregg Hurwitz’s process of writing fiction novels
[27:30​] Creating meaningful and memorable characters in fiction
[32:00​] How Gregg first connected with the Peterson Family
[36:00​] Why Gregg’s protagonist Evan in the Orphan X series drinks vodka and has a vertical garden
[38:30​] The process of choosing an editor and publishing house
[43:00​] Planning and writing the Orphan X series
[51:00​] Writing believable and engaging characters
[56:00​] Problems with modern warfare and PTSD rates in the US
[59:30​] Mikhaila talks about when Gregg wrote her into a character in one of his comics

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Mikhaila Peterson (@mikhailapeterson Instagram) is a 28 year old mother, CEO, health influencer, writer and founder of the Lion Diet, from Toronto, Canada. She has put her idiopathic juvenile arthritis, severe depression (bipolar type II), and chronic fatigue (among other ailments) into remission using The Lion Diet - a beef, salt and water elimination diet. Although it may seem unorthodox, she’s thrived on it for over 2 years. Also recognized for her work with her father, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson (Canadian psychologist and author), she encourages others to take responsibility for every part of their physical and mental health, and teaches how to dramatically transform one's life by never giving up on yourself.

The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast is a podcast where host Mikhaila Peterson speaks with thought leaders, and industry changers - continually finding the best ways to improve the human experience. From stay at home mom’s to CEO’s, fitness enthusiasts to spiritual guides, nutrition researchers to health professionals - Mikhaila has interview-style conversations aimed at provoking thought, addressing difficult subjects, and speaking about topics that are generally shied away from.