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I sat down today with Mark Goulston to discuss all things mental health-related. We got into the ins and outs of dealing with depression, his own techniques and tips on how to cope, and the Michelangelo Mindset.

Mark Goulston is the Creator/Co-founder of Michelangelo Mindset, exec coach, best-selling author of nine books, and host of My Wakeup Call Podcast. He was originally a UCLA professor of psychiatry for over 25 years, and a former FBI and police hostage negotiation trainer.

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Show Notes
[00:00] Intro
[04:58] Surgical empathy
[10:33] The Michelangelo Mindset
[12:28] Mikhaila’s experience with depression and suicidal thoughts.
[14:22] Teen mental health webinar and the Tell My Story documentary about youth mental health and suicide prevention.
[19:05] The steps of the Michelangelo Mindset
[22:14] What to do if your start-up pitch flops
[27:09] What you want to create in a conversation with other people.
[28:00] Steve Jobs Xerox story
[31:32] What you can do to get that type of reaction
[32:09] Creating bestselling book titles
[34:45] Wisdom on never getting taken advantage of and Mark’s experience with the OJ Simpson trial.
[47:46] A tactic against bullies
[46:00] Mark’s own story of depression
[56:35] Mark’s interview with Jordan B. Peterson

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Mikhaila Peterson (@mikhailapeterson Instagram) is a 28 year old mother, CEO, health influencer, writer and founder of the Lion Diet, from Toronto, Canada. She has put her idiopathic juvenile arthritis, severe depression (bipolar type II), and chronic fatigue (among other ailments) into remission using The Lion Diet - a beef, salt and water elimination diet. Although it may seem unorthodox, she’s thrived on it for over 2 years. Also recognized for her work with her father, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson (Canadian psychologist and author), she encourages others to take responsibility for every part of their physical and mental health, and teaches how to dramatically transform one's life by never giving up on yourself.

The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast is a podcast where host Mikhaila Peterson speaks with thought leaders, and industry changers - continually finding the best ways to improve the human experience. From stay at home mom’s to CEO’s, fitness enthusiasts to spiritual guides, nutrition researchers to health professionals - Mikhaila has interview-style conversations aimed at provoking thought, addressing difficult subjects, and speaking about topics that are generally shied away from.